re: Chicago Tribune: Sources within Big 10 say they might want to expand to 18 teams

Posted by Teddy Ruxpin

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Posted on 1/7/13 at 1:27 pm to nicholastiger

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Pretty soon LSU will be in the western division of the SEC and will only play those schools and the eastern side will in essence be another conference.

What would make it easier to analogize it would be to the NFL monikers.

Big 10 would be an 18 team "League" like the NFL is a League. East and West would basically be the AFC/NFC conferences with no divisions I imagine within them. Playing a round robin "conference" schedule to determine East/West champion who then play each other (Super Bowl).

Kind of like the idea I liked if the NFL went to 18 game schedules. Get rid of divisions, play 15 round robin conference games. 3 Out of conference. Get rid of playoffs, champions play. Pretty fair system to determine Super Bowl champion.

Same thing here. Round robin within East and West.
You won't have the Bama and Georgia example from the SEC this year playing 2 Top teams instead of the Four that other teams played due to scheduling issues.

This post was edited on 1/7/13 at 1:31 pm

Posted by SM6

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Posted on 1/7/13 at 1:47 pm to Teddy Ruxpin

GT would bring the ATL Market and UNC/Duke would provide Raleigh, Charlotte and Greensboro/Winston Salem... not bad at all. UVA would further strengthen DC and provide Richmond (not much of a market) and the Norfolk/Newport Bad News area... aprox 1 million folks.. Not too bad of a haul given that the Big 10 has pretty much tapped out all of the Midwest already.

Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker

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Posted on 1/7/13 at 1:54 pm to nicholastiger

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Pretty soon LSU will be in the western division of the SEC and will only play those schools and the eastern side will in essence be another conference.

Big 10 raids ACC
SEC and Big 12 split what's left of the ACC

This could be cool if they had two conferences with no conference championship game, but have a bigger playoff instead. It would basically be the NFL with more teams. BIG / SEC each with divisions consisting of 4-6 teams. Play all of your division, some cross-division games within conference, and 1-2 games form the other conference.

Posted by Teddy Ruxpin

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Posted on 1/7/13 at 2:03 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker

Divisions are gay and lead to people getting easier schedules by fluke. Split the conference/league in two. Those two play round robin within each other. Champions play. Only fair way. If this was pros it would be less an.issue since talent is very close, even with shitty teams.

To keep cohesivensess you can add some inter "division" play i guess. MLB did fine for 100 years without it though.

This post was edited on 1/7/13 at 2:06 pm

Posted by molsusports

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Posted on 1/7/13 at 2:56 pm to Teddy Ruxpin

just for the sake of mental masturbation let's consider what the Big 10 could do if they went to 20 teams:

Add:
Maryland
Rutgers
North Carolina
Virginia
Duke
Georgia Tech
Notre Dame
Kansas

West:
Nebraska (tOSU)
Wisconsin (PSU)
Iowa (MSU)
Kansas (Maryland)
Minnesota (Indiana)

Northeast:
Notre Dame (Michigan)
Virginia (North Carolina)
Purdue (Northwestern)
Rutgers (Ga Tech)
Indiana (Minnesota)

Central Western:
Ohio State (Nebraska)
Michigan (Notre Dame)
Michigan State (Iowa)
Northwestern (Purdue)
Illinois (Duke)

Coastal:
Penn State (Wisconsin)
Georgia Tech (Rutgers)
Maryland (Kansas)
North Carolina (Virginia)
Duke (Illinois)

Posted by nicholastiger

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Posted on 1/7/13 at 3:40 pm to molsusports

It would be nice if all the college commishes/ presidents/ad's got into a room and sorted this thing out to stop all these backroom deals.

Get in a room, hash it out, these teams belong here, don't let it get out of whack as far as regions go to make traveling easier.

Let the original members pretty much stay put.

Posted by Damn Good Dawg

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Posted on 1/7/13 at 3:50 pm to SM6

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GT would bring the ATL Market

Maybe a smidge of it

Posted by bbap

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Posted on 1/7/13 at 3:53 pm to RedHawk

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Now four 18 or 20 team conferences could work.

a 20 team conference? jesus fricking christ has everyone gone mental?

Posted by molsusports

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Posted on 1/7/13 at 3:57 pm to bbap

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a 20 team conference? jesus fricking christ has everyone gone mental?

20 makes more sense than 18 - just like 12 or 16 makes more sense than 14

If it is being driven by expansion into new markets it might work - if you find yourself the Big 12 with half your teams in one state it doesn't make much sense no matter how many schools you have

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Posted by bbap

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Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:06 pm to molsusports

4 20 team conferences... that is the dumbest thing ive ever heard. would make college sports flat out suck.

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Posted by molsusports

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Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:13 pm to bbap

I don't see a realistic way for more than a maximum of three major conferences to get to 16 or more teams

The Pac would have to gut the Big 12 to get 16
The SEC or Big 10 would have to gut the ACC to get to 16

Posted by Bestbank Tiger

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Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:39 pm to molsusports

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20 makes more sense than 18 - just like 12 or 16 makes more sense than 14

Might as well. The Legends division could be the original Big Ten and the Leaders could be the teams that were added later.

Posted by lsutigers1992

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Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:44 pm to bbap

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4 20 team conferences... that is the dumbest thing ive ever heard. would make college sports flat out suck.

That'll never happen because if that happens, Alabama can't play Tennessee anymore.

Posted by Buckeye06

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Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:49 pm to Damn Good Dawg

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GT would bring the ATL Market

Maybe a smidge of it

In reality, I think the BIG only needs GT to get the TV packages in Atlanta to have the BIG network. They don't need the "market" per say

Posted by bigjuice56

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Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:56 pm to molsusports

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I don't see a realistic way for more than a maximum of three major conferences to get to 16 or more teams

The only off the wall theory I could come up with:
UNC and UVa to Big 10
NC State and VA Tech to SEC
Florida St, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Louisville, Miami, and Cincinnati to the Big XII
Now the off the wall part: Notre Dame and 3 northeastern teams (Pitt, Syracuse, and Boston College) to the Pac-12 for football only - The only reason I even think this is a possibility is the Catholic 7 breaking off from the Big East gives these schools a regional home for their Olympic Sports.

Posted by Bestbank Tiger

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Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:40 pm to lsutigers1992

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That'll never happen because if that happens, Alabama can't play Tennessee anymore.

Slive will make it work:

SEC West - LSU, TAMU, Oklahoma, Okie Lite, FU, Georgia, USC, R-Kansas, Clemson, Florida State

SEC East - Bama, Auburn, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Kentucky, Vandy, Mizzou, Duke, Kansas