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re: LHSAA Week 10...
Posted on 11/7/21 at 8:21 am to Red Solo Cup
Posted on 11/7/21 at 8:21 am to Red Solo Cup
Does anyone know why it was changed? LHSAA says someone appealed the rankings, but the normal schedule gives people until 8am to appeal, so no reason brackets should be postponed.
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 8:24 am to HangmanPage1
quote:it's not who you think it is...
Someone is appealing the seeding
This post was edited on 11/7/21 at 8:26 am
Posted on 11/7/21 at 8:35 am to choupiquesushi
Who is appealing?
Posted on 11/7/21 at 8:35 am to whodat77
quote:1981 and 1984 or 85 someone discovered info after deadline that would have changed who was in who was out. Team that was due a forfeit would have been district champ in a 3 way tie, the lhsaa deemed it to late, so emergency appeal process was put in place - btw the team that should have been out - went on to win state.
Does anyone know why it was changed? LHSAA says someone appealed the rankings, but the normal schedule gives people until 8am to appeal, so no reason brackets should be postponed.
Posted on 11/7/21 at 8:41 am to choupiquesushi
They should, at a minimum, announce the classification/division the appeal affects so that everyone else can start prepping.
This post was edited on 11/7/21 at 8:42 am
Posted on 11/7/21 at 8:47 am to Antonio Moss
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They should, at a minimum, announce the classification/division the appeal affects so that everyone else can start prepping.
I think most principals and ad's therefore coaches know and are prepping.
At least I know several that do
Posted on 11/7/21 at 8:49 am to choupiquesushi
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1981 and 1984 or 85 someone discovered info after deadline that would have changed who was in who was out. Team that was due a forfeit would have been district champ in a 3 way tie, the lhsaa deemed it to late, so emergency appeal process was put in place - btw the team that should have been out - went on to win state.
I understand this, but regular process says you have until 8am and appeal was made before 8am, so trying to understand why it’s considered an emergency appeal that postpones release
Posted on 11/7/21 at 8:50 am to choupiquesushi
After the BM and De La Salle sanctions, it’s pretty clear that you cannot reason with the LHSAA. They are just going to make up stuff and punish whoever they want.
Posted on 11/7/21 at 8:51 am to choupiquesushi
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it's not who you think it is...
Any reason you won’t share?
Posted on 11/7/21 at 9:03 am to whodat77
One is Booker T Washington. It was in the paper this morning. Had to forfeit seven games due to academically ineligible player and will now be out of playoffs.
Posted on 11/7/21 at 9:12 am to Antonio Moss
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One is Booker T Washington. It was in the paper this morning. Had to forfeit seven games due to academically ineligible player and will now be out of playoffs.
Bigger issue, but this once again shows a huge disparity btw select and nonselect. Forcing forfeits as penalties has a huge impact on a nonselect school’s playoff chances, but for a select school, no amount of forfeits will keep them out of the playoffs.
Posted on 11/7/21 at 9:18 am to whodat77
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Bigger issue, but this once again shows a huge disparity btw select and nonselect. Forcing forfeits as penalties has a huge impact on a nonselect school’s playoff chances, but for a select school, no amount of forfeits will keep them out of the playoffs.
Sure but that isn’t the fault of the selects. They almost unanimously opposed the segregation.
Plus, the sanctions against BM and De La Salle are nonsense. The schools had been interpreting an ambiguous rule the same way for three decades and the LHSAA randomly decides to interpret it another way on a whim.
Posted on 11/7/21 at 9:24 am to Antonio Moss
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Sure but that isn’t the fault of the selects. They almost unanimously opposed the segregation.
Agree but just shows how ridiculous the split is. Select schools should be split into 2 divisions if they’re not combined w nonselect. Makes no sense that everyone makes the playoffs and a third of the teams get byes and go straight to quarter finals. Making it to state used to be meaningful. A playoff bracket w 12 teams is ridiculous.
Posted on 11/7/21 at 9:26 am to whodat77
quote:too big of a gap between d1-2-3-4 for only 2 brackets.
Agree but just shows how ridiculous the split is. Select schools should be split into 2 divisions if they’re not combined w nonselect. Makes no sense that everyone makes the playoffs and a third of the teams get byes and go straight to quarter finals. Making it to state used to be meaningful. A playoff bracket w 12 teams is ridiculous.
making it to state is still pretty dang meaningful
Posted on 11/7/21 at 9:26 am to Antonio Moss
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Plus, the sanctions against BM and De La Salle are nonsense. The schools had been interpreting an ambiguous rule the same way for three decades and the LHSAA randomly decides to interpret it another way on a whim.
Just curious, what was the gpa rule? Probably good for all schools to know, since I’m sure others are misinterpreting it as well.
So the three non-select schools, why were they sanctioned? I thought all the schools had the same academic issue, but I must have misread.
Posted on 11/7/21 at 9:27 am to whodat77
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Bigger issue, but this once again shows a huge disparity btw select and nonselect. Forcing forfeits as penalties has a huge impact on a nonselect school’s playoff chances, but for a select school, no amount of forfeits will keep them out of the playoffs.
it was proposed by a principal to ban a team with more than X % of forfeits to be in playoffs - was shot down quickly.
Posted on 11/7/21 at 9:30 am to whodat77
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Select schools should be split into 2 divisions if they’re not combined w nonselec
Can’t do it that way. There are a handful of select schools with huge enrollments and the. It tails off fast. The graph of select schools enrollment looks like a Nike check.
Posted on 11/7/21 at 9:33 am to choupiquesushi
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making it to state is still pretty dang meaningful
Not taking away from making it to state, but it’s not what it used to be. Plenty of select schools who used to hope them made it to the quarters and now that’s their first game. Making it to the semis shouldn’t be a given, there are just not enough schools.
At a minimum, they could split into three divisions instead of four. Each division should at least have the same number of schools as playoffs spots, and right now they don’t.
Posted on 11/7/21 at 9:36 am to whodat77
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Just curious, what was the gpa rule?
The rule states that a student must have a “C average”, which historically has been interpreted as a 1.5, to participate.
For the fall semester, the rule says that it must be a C average for “all graded material”
Schools have been using the previous spring semester’s GPA in determining whether it meets the C average for Fall eligibility because for Spring eligibility, the rule says you calculate the Fall GPA.
LHSAA decided that is not the correct determination despite that the rule, itself, is unclear, schools have done it this way forever, and it would be consistent with how the rules say to calculate spring eligibility.
Posted on 11/7/21 at 9:50 am to whodat77
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Just curious, what was the gpa rule?
You have to have a whopping 1.5 GPA. Super hard and unattainable I guess
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