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re: Youth deer rifle recommendations

Posted on 11/6/20 at 10:43 pm to
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8976 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 10:43 pm to
Got an 8 year old I’m introducing to shooting. Started plinking with 22LR. Moved him to a Remington Model 7 in 7mm-08. Shorter bolt throw, light rifle and moderate recoil. Simple 3x9-40 scope. Plenty enough for most N American big game. I think any of the necked down 308 family would work here be it 243, 260, etc.

If I had an old 30-30 lever I would consider it a fine choice.
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2347 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 11:07 pm to
Let him practice with a .22 with a scope just like any deer rifle he will shoot. Then only let him shoot a .243 or 7mm-08 from the stand at a deer. In the heat of the moment with the adrenaline flowing, he will not know the difference.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25168 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 6:42 am to
Mine used an AR-15 in 6.8 spc

He’s 14 now and I’m in the process of building him a bolt action in 6.5 cm. He will use it for hunting and shooting with me in f class matches.
Posted by SpookeyTiger
Williamsburg, MO
Member since Jan 2012
3535 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 6:55 am to
AR in .300 blackout or 6.5 Grendel. Depending on how far you are shooting, both of these are great with low recoil. For long term thinking the Grendel is definitely a longer range cartridge than the .300 blackout with much better ballistics.

If you get an AR platform rifle, you have an excuse to buy more uppers. It is for the children.

Started my daughter on a .243 then bought her an AR in .300 blackout for her 16th birthday and the.300 blackout is her go to deer rifle.

Good luck!
Posted by Leadhead
Member since Jan 2013
887 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 7:24 am to
300 blackout AR

Plenty enough for any shot a kid should take. Adjustable stock. Can’t outgrow it. Fun for the adults too
Posted by IamLSU02
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2013
108 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 7:40 am to
7mm08. My son(now 10) shoots it and he killed 2 deer with it last year. Barnes makes a reduced recoil round, which is nice too. Sitting in a stand right now, praying for #3.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5715 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:34 am to
I would not recommend a lever rifle if it has a hammer safety. A bolt action is the safest action.
Posted by Sparty3131
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2019
664 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:40 am to
That is true. You have to be more careful with the hammer vs. switch/button safety. If my kid is not able to be careful with the hammer safety I would think they are too young to be using a rifle.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6833 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 11:23 am to
Congratulations on being involved w/ your son. I'm sure you'll have innumerable fond memories as I do from hunting w/ my son.

The question of gun recommendations for newbie hunter always brings a lot of opinions and suggestions. For AR guys, I'd suggest the 6.5 Grendel or 300 Blackout. In bolt guns I'd personally suggest a 260 Rem, 7-08, 308 Win, 270 Win or 30-06. The 6.5 Creedmore will work too, but be aware ahead of time re: local availability of ammo. My local ammo doesn't carry the CM nor the 7-08. In addition, I don't think the CM has reduced recoil loads yet. A few have already mentioned using reduced recoil/managed recoil loads and I agree. A reduced recoil 308 Win load actually has less recoil than a full power 243. Unfortunately, ammo availability is a problem for everyone this year, regardless of the chamber. If you have a friend who handholds, he might can help you out. W/ equal bullet weights, a short action round like the 308 Win will always recoil less than a similar long action round, like the 30-06, because the short round uses less powder. You may want to look at a youth rifle. Be sure the gun/stock fits your son(s). Some gun makers, e.g Mossberg, make a youth rifle that has an adjustable length of pull by means of different thicknesses of the butt pad. If you get a regular youth rifle that can't be adjusted you can always later buy an adult stock as your son grows. Or you could add to the length of pull using a slip on recoil pad. The Axis looks to be a good gun. The only Mossberg bolt action I shot was very accurate. I have a Marlin bolt action that's also very inexpensive. When shooting at the range, insist on them using both the foam ear plugs and ear muffs. Consider using a "sissy pad" (small sand bag between shoulder and recoil pad) at the range. Be sure the gun has a nice recoil pad (Limbsaver or Kick Eez are two than come to mind).

When my son was 10 years old I was faced w/ the same decision as you. I bought him a Savage bolt action (w/ the scope included) in 308 Win. I almost went w/ the 7-08, but this was before factory reduced recoil loads. I planned on making my own reduced loads and already had everything to do so w/ the 308. OTOH, fast forward 15 years later and I now have a 7-08 handgun. Last fall I bought a Thompson/Center Compass in 7-08 for a "grand child's" deer rifle.

Keep us updated. Enjoy your experiences w/ your son.
Posted by mallardhank
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2006
1280 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 6:24 pm to
Savage Axis at Academy or Walmart in 6.5 creed
Right at 300.00 and may have a scope on it
Posted by lv2bowhntAU
God's Country,a.k.a N. Alabama
Member since Jan 2011
3301 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 6:26 pm to
Buy him a compact Tikka in 7mm-08 then go ahead and buy a full size stock for it. he'll be set with a deer rifle for life
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

f I had an old 30-30 lever I would consider it a fine choice.

You have a interest in an older Marlin 30-30? If so e-mail me unclejhim@att.net
This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 8:00 pm
Posted by Jcrew
Gulf coast
Member since Aug 2012
990 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 8:33 pm to
Watched my 7 year old nephew kill his first deer yesterday with a youth 7mm 08. That caliber is what I started my kid on too. He's in high school and still prefers taking the 7-08.

Posted by jmh5724
Member since Jan 2012
2148 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 8:59 pm to
quote:

He's in high school and still prefers taking the 7-08.


I’m 38 and still prefer my 7mm-08
Posted by Manatee
Mandeville
Member since Oct 2011
415 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 9:53 pm to
7mm08, super effective and he will be able hunt any deer for many years. Low recoil but deadly.
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
2970 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:47 am to
quote:

’m 38 and still prefer my 7mm-08

Lol I always laugh when I hear some say get them a 7mm08 and then you can get them a “grownup” gun later on.
You know something like a 308 ,, it would be cool if someone would neck a 308 down to shoot 7mm boolits...
Posted by Megasaurus
Member since Dec 2017
783 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:51 am to
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6.5 grendel
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 11:52 am
Posted by jmh5724
Member since Jan 2012
2148 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 1:06 pm to
I will probably give mine to my son in a few years and buy myself another one. I love it, no need for anything else in piney woods.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37259 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 1:25 pm to
Anyone have a bolt action youth rifle that their kids have outgrown? I might be interested.
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