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re: Why do universities hire professors that students can't understand?
Posted on 8/30/19 at 9:17 pm to NolaTiger52
Posted on 8/30/19 at 9:17 pm to NolaTiger52
This is probably why I'm a lawyer instead of a scientist, engineer, or mathematician. I literally had no clue what some of these people were saying. One computer science instructor was so bad I actually felt sorry for her. I think I still dropped the class though. I didn't sign up and pay for that shite.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 9:41 pm to tonydtigr
You have to give the small liberal arts schools due credit... they care about teaching kids
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:07 pm to NolaTiger52
How can you learn from the professor if their use of English isn’t understood???
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:10 pm to fallguy_1978
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We registered for classes over the phone with Reggie
Yep, trying to actually get the call picked up was so frustrating. BUSY BUSY BUSY BUSY BUSY...I remember people saying that if you lived closer to the university, you had a better chance of getting in quicker. That makes no sense at all but we sure did it anyway.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:12 pm to McLemore
Agreed
The first time I took 1021, the only thing I was pretty sure of was finding the “debibative”.
Got an English as a first language professor 1021 2.0 and made and A-
The first time I took 1021, the only thing I was pretty sure of was finding the “debibative”.
Got an English as a first language professor 1021 2.0 and made and A-
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:14 pm to NolaTiger52
The answer is research and potential to bring in grant money.
Revenue from undergraduate tuition typically gets spent on student services and administration. Thus, teaching isn't really a money-maker for big research universities, which is why they increasingly rely on contingent faculty -- i.e., non-tenure track faculty (i.e., instructors) and non-permanent faculty (i.e., adjuncts).
Grants are where the real money for the big research university -- most take ~50% (or more) of federal and foundation grants right off the top. Most people don't know that. For fields like biomedical research and engineering, this amounts to millions.
Thus, if a professor can bring in research dollars (or has the potential to), they don't really care if that professor can't teach well.
Revenue from undergraduate tuition typically gets spent on student services and administration. Thus, teaching isn't really a money-maker for big research universities, which is why they increasingly rely on contingent faculty -- i.e., non-tenure track faculty (i.e., instructors) and non-permanent faculty (i.e., adjuncts).
Grants are where the real money for the big research university -- most take ~50% (or more) of federal and foundation grants right off the top. Most people don't know that. For fields like biomedical research and engineering, this amounts to millions.
Thus, if a professor can bring in research dollars (or has the potential to), they don't really care if that professor can't teach well.
This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:20 pm to NolaTiger52
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Why do universities do this?
LSU hires head coaches people can't understand, too, so obviously this isn't a requirement on the job applications.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:24 pm to NolaTiger52
I spent 5 years in engineering at lsu and never had a problem understanding any of my professors.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:25 pm to crewdepoo
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I spent 5 years in engineering at lsu and never had a problem understanding any of my professors.
Ever have Sunggook Park? Dude is brilliant, but 40% of the things he says I cannot understand
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:35 pm to NolaTiger52
This is the downside of attending a large state university. The professors are there to do research and bring in grant money.
They do not give two shits about teaching you.
They do not give two shits about teaching you.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:41 pm to NolaTiger52
There are two situations
1. The professor’s English is terrible and it’s truly unreasonable to expect someone to understand.
2. They have an “accent” but the command of the English language is reasonable.
I truly have sympathy in case 1. But most of the time it is case 2 and in this scenario, the student should make an effort to understand. In case 2, the student uses the “accent” as an excuse for laziness or failure.
1. The professor’s English is terrible and it’s truly unreasonable to expect someone to understand.
2. They have an “accent” but the command of the English language is reasonable.
I truly have sympathy in case 1. But most of the time it is case 2 and in this scenario, the student should make an effort to understand. In case 2, the student uses the “accent” as an excuse for laziness or failure.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:44 pm to TheWalrus
Obviously your from Iran or something.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:49 pm to TheWalrus
When more than 50% of the class fails it points to #1.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:58 pm to NolaTiger52
I took a finance class with a Chinese grad student teaching and ended up passing with a 42% B. Nobody understood a single word this baw was saying and his tests were as unintelligible as he.
Posted on 8/31/19 at 7:38 am to NolaTiger52
Some of my favorite professors were hard to understand. But they wanted you to learn. It was statistics and Econ. I had a few white all American professors that could teach for shite and I understood every damn word they said.
Posted on 8/31/19 at 7:44 am to NolaTiger52
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Why do universities hire professors that students can't understand?
Those that can, do. Those that can’t, teach.
Posted on 8/31/19 at 7:50 am to NolaTiger52
I dropped a couple math classes where I couldn’t understand the prof
Posted on 8/31/19 at 7:50 am to Bullfrog
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Got an English as a first language professor 1021 2.0 and made and A-
English as a first language?
Posted on 8/31/19 at 7:55 am to fallguy_1978
quote:You missed out on the color coded mainframe computer punch cards after wandering around half of campus (multiple buildings anyway). Engineering was one color, English another, Math a 3rd color...taking a ton of classes per quarter @Tech you'd have a rainbow of cards to turn in at the end of about a 3 hour or longer walkabout.
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shite, when I first got to tech, you had to stand in line. We skipped phone step and went straight to internet registration
I don't really remember when we had internet registration but maybe not at all during my first degree from LSU. You had to just sit on the phone and hit redial for an hour or two until you got through.
Not advertised was the trading cards among students to coordinate professors, times, days of the week. "I'll trade ya my Lime Green Thursdays for your Dark Red Tuesdays if you'll throw in your Dark Blue Monday afternoon".
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