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Jerry Layne's Strike Zone for the Cubs Nationals Game Last Night

Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:40 am
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48950 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:40 am
Fangraphs interactive strike zone so you can see more details of the pitches





Jerry Layne has been an umpire for 28 years and a crew chief for 24. Last night's zone was inexcusable. Any pitch on the bottom 1/3rd of the plate was a coin flip ball/strike.

He was bad for both teams, but MLB needs to get on this. You can't have pitchers throwing perfect strikeout pitches keeping the AB alive because of a wrong call


Posted by chitiger91
Lake Bluff IL
Member since Apr 2016
3120 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:41 am to
Took that wade Davis fastball to the chin like a champ tho.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38132 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:42 am to
quote:

Jerry Layne has been an umpire for 28 years and a crew chief for 24. Last night's zone was inexcusable. Any pitch on the bottom 1/3rd of the plate was a coin flip ball/strike.

He was bad for both teams, but MLB needs to get on this. You can't have pitchers throwing perfect strikeout pitches keeping the AB alive because of a wrong call


In his defense, he was concussed.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
8854 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:43 am to
I feel this is every game. Worst thing to happen to the game was showing fans the "K zone".
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48950 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:44 am to
Also, if I had to guess, the pitch that Baez swung at in the 9th is way off the top of that chart
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48950 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Worst thing to happen to the game was showing fans the "K zone".
I usually say the same thing. But these were inexcusable. They were obvious. I'm not talking about pitches that were on the edge of the plate
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:47 am to
That is a pretty good indication on why it was a high scoring game.....


He called 3 strikes that should have been balls

He called 30 balls that should have been strikes



Yikes
Posted by hawgndodge
Member since Jun 2009
4781 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:47 am to
I counted 19 strikes that were in the zone, not on the corner, that were called balls.

3 strikes called that were out of the zone


Pathetic
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111123 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:47 am to
I know it's not an original thought but if we can have that pretty graph, why the hell do we need a human umpire?

So strange.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
26009 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:50 am to
I don't understand why they don't go with the automated balls and strikes. It's being implemented in some minor league games.

He was bad behind the plate. It's part of the reason so many runs were scored. He squeezed the zone. It was either walk the batter or give him a meatball down the middle and hope for the best.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34370 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:51 am to
quote:

I usually say the same thing. But these were inexcusable. They were obvious. I'm not talking about pitches that were on the edge of the plate


Yeah, pitches that are on the line are understandable. The ones that are basically grooved are not.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38132 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Also, if I had to guess, the pitch that Baez swung at in the 9th is way off the top of that chart


Found it

Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
26009 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:55 am to
The Baez pitch is was almost 7 feet high. I'm not sure why any pitcher throws him a strike?
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25234 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Worst thing to happen to the game was showing fans the "K zone".


I disagree. The pitch details are the first down line of a baseball broadcast--an excellent addition to the game. The worst thing to happen to the game is the abomination of designating someone to hit.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22484 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:56 am to
quote:

I don't understand why they don't go with the automated balls and strikes. It's being implemented in some minor league games.



right. all we need are lights behind the plate.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76549 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:57 am to
Give the umps a vibrating buzzer that vibrates when there's a strike. They make the signal or indicate it's a ball. They make calls on swings, fouls, catcher/batter interference, and plays at the plate.

End the madness.

Consistency will make the game better.
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:57 am to
He sucked across the board. I also hate how he takes forever to call a strike.

Eta: Im pretty sure he makes an audible call right away, then takes a second to make the call with his arm. Still you cant hear the audible call on TV and the lateness is infuriating
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 9:59 am
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61837 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:57 am to
Doesn't look as bad on brooks baseball's strike zone plots, although there are some outliers.





quote:

These strikezone maps are now drawn to reflect the 2015 zone "as called" to LHH and RHH hitters. These strikezone maps were drawn to the specifications of Mike Fast, a former writer for Baseball Prospectus who now works for the Houston Astros. These plots show actual calls superimposed onto dashed lines that represent the strikezones that all Umpires generally call. The dashed lines shift to represent typical deviations for LHH and RHH.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 9:58 am
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
26009 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:02 am to
Youtube Man vs. Machine


quote:

right. all we need are lights behind the plate.


I'm not sure what you are talking about. The system is pretty flawless. There are no lights but only cameras strategically set up around the stadium.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48950 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:03 am to
quote:

There are no lights but only cameras strategically set up around the stadium.
He means red light strike, green light ball, or some variation
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