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re: Scales tipped against college?

Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:30 pm to
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:30 pm to
I'd only know if I knew what you studied.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

Gaston


Baw she's some industry cpa chick who was never loved as a baby, was a homeschooled gymnast and never wants kids





Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:45 pm to
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With plant operators and plumbers starting at $80k; college grads starting as bank tellers; lawyer ads on every commercial break, when does college not become worth it?


Well to be fair, working in AC >>>>> working in the heat. IMO
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:47 pm to
It takes all types...

I'm too much of an existentialist to believe that, but it's a fitting cliche.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:48 pm to
If you are an engineer and not making over 50k out of school you are probably the worlds worse engineer and they needed a body with credentials to appease the hiring manager.

Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:09 pm to
Having degrees helped get me my current job. But they weren't enough. And in the end, it was the lucknof the draw that my interviewers happened to want someone's who didn't fit the mold of the business's typical recruits.

Another thing to point out is experiencne means everything. After your first job, your college career means basically nothing.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:23 pm to
I had 7 offers my Senior year at LSU as a EE. I moved to Seattle because the pay is outstanding.
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:24 pm to
Show me where 22 year old kids start out at $80k as an operator or plumber. I wanna see this world you've made up.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:31 pm to
Show me anyone whose staring out at 88k. It may happen once in a blue moon from som one from an elite school

Electrical engineering is one of the top starting salaries and the average is about $57,000.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:37 pm to
I am EE who started at 73K in telecommunications
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:40 pm to
Trump is the result if the dumbing down of America. Let's not expand on it by discouraging higher education.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:43 pm to
I have a journalism degree from Baylor where tuition was $42K a year roughly while I was in school.

My family isn't rich or anything but certainly aren't poor. I was good in high school and made a 27 on my ACT. Baylor gave me a pretty large scholarship and just about every single person I knew in college also was on some kind of scholarship.

I graduated with $23K in student loans. Compared to many, that isn't bad at all. Much less than what I make a year covering sports.

Private schools may cost more, but they are also much more willing to give scholarship money to students compared to public schools. I wanted to go to LSU originally, but the out of state made LSU a much more expensive option compared to Baylor.
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:51 pm to
Did you take classes from Ajmera? He was my favorite professor in EE.

Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:11 pm to
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And yet most seniors in college cannot properly formulate sentences, use spell check, or write papers in the correct format. I have always needed to proofread and correct the papers of every group I've ever been in. Evidently the required English classes aren't teaching people anything
Well, when you grow up texting things like, "R u coming over to the party. Lol" You don't learn proper spelling or sentence structure.

I blame it all on texting. I constantly have to remind my nieces and nephews of this.

The "laziness" of texting carries over into their schoolwork or business writing.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19587 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:18 pm to
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Where are plumbers starting at $80k?



Granted, they may not start at 80K, but if you live in any southern rural area, you may as well be ready to wait days before they show up. I have a friend who is a plumber who can't handle all the work he has. Carpenters as well, another friend says he tells folks who call it will be a minimum of 30 days before he can begin work.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:23 pm to
Yup,

EE 3232 basics of semiconductor physics and how it's developed over time.
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:44 pm to
Plumbers do make that much but not until several years after they start. It is hard work at times and can be very dirty. The point is that there is a shortage of people willing to do trades because they are misled from an early age. Some people will serve themselves better in regards to long term financial stability by becoming skilled in a trade in lieu of earning a 4 year degree.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39062 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:56 pm to
I had him for electronics II, that class, and a bunch of graduate device physics classes. I had him teach me in a survey class where I was only student and he just made my projects up as I presented the previous. Witty dude.

I admit, I do have some regret not sticking with EE (professionally)...it was always intriguing.

Hopefully I can pull off an alternate path PE in ME (never actually took an ME class) here in the next few years. My firm needs to secure a good contract in my home state to do that, but I don't have much control over the that.

What flavor EE do you do up there?

Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:46 pm to
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you don't start making $80K as a plumber. and its hard shitty work.


Even if you don't start at that high of a salary, one great aspect of most of the trades is being able to start your own business and hopefully by the time you are in your 40s someone else is doing the shitty work.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:57 pm to
Systems Integration with the AWS platform. I perform high level quantitative failure modes and effects analysis and implementation.

I'm a Program Manager.
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