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Study: Cry it out method doesnt harm kids
Posted on 5/24/16 at 5:53 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 5:53 am
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Infants left to cry themselves to sleep will not suffer any emotional, behavioral or parental attachment problems, a new study suggests. The findings may help parents rest easier knowing that ignoring their babies' cries won't cause long-term damage.
Australian researchers found babies allowed to CIO — "cry it out" or cry themselves to sleep, a method called "graduated extinction" by researchers, did not produce any more signs of stress in the infants than a "gentler" method, according to the study published Tuesday in the journal Pediatrics.
"Both treatments helped the babies fall asleep quicker," said the study's lead author, Michael Gradisar, an associate professor and clinical psychologist at Flinders University in Adelaide, Australia. "However graduated extinction was better in reducing the number of times the infants woke during the night, as well as the amount of time they spent awake during the night."
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Does the OT agree?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 5:57 am to TJGator1215
I don't care of it does cause emotional problems. I'm tired dammit.
But seriously it's the best thing we've ever done. We can tell when it's really something and when he's just looking for attention. He sleeps better than most kids. At 1.5 we can lay him in his crib wide awake and have nothing to worry about most nights. He'll be asleep in 10 minutes and it's all because of crying it out.
But seriously it's the best thing we've ever done. We can tell when it's really something and when he's just looking for attention. He sleeps better than most kids. At 1.5 we can lay him in his crib wide awake and have nothing to worry about most nights. He'll be asleep in 10 minutes and it's all because of crying it out.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 6:08 am to TJGator1215
Yes, it's best for the kid.
It's misery for mom and dad though
It's misery for mom and dad though
Posted on 5/24/16 at 6:22 am to MSMHater
My 1.5 goes to bed and sits up for a few minutes looking around and talking to himself. No crying and he is asleep in 10 mins for close to 12 hours. 7:30-6:30 like clockwork.
My 6 month old sleeps from 6:30-1 and he usually wakes up at 1 because he dropped a deuce. He then sleeps from 1:15 to 7. Most times he doesn't want a bottle at night, just a new diaper.
We did a 3,5,10 cry it out method where we let him cry for 3 minutes, went in, rubbed his back for a few seconds and then left. Cry for 5 and go back. He never made it to 10 minutes as he was always asleep. One of the best things we have done.
My 6 month old sleeps from 6:30-1 and he usually wakes up at 1 because he dropped a deuce. He then sleeps from 1:15 to 7. Most times he doesn't want a bottle at night, just a new diaper.
We did a 3,5,10 cry it out method where we let him cry for 3 minutes, went in, rubbed his back for a few seconds and then left. Cry for 5 and go back. He never made it to 10 minutes as he was always asleep. One of the best things we have done.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 6:37 am to TJGator1215
Graduated extinction doesn't sound harmless.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 6:39 am to TJGator1215
My son was 10 months old when we did the cry it out thing. Should've done it sooner but the wife was nervous because it was our first baby. But it had been 10 months of waking up every 2-3 hours and for all of our sakes I made a stand and made us do it. It only took 3 nights. First night it was doing the method where you go in there at 5 minutes then 10, etc. for about 2 hours. Second and third nights it was only an hour. He's been sleeping 8pm-7am ever since. He's 3 now. No more rocking him to sleep then gently putting him in bed so not to wake him. He gets in bed on his own, says good night and goes to sleep. He doesn't have any behavioral issues or separation anxiety so I couldn't recommend it enough.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 6:54 am to TJGator1215
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Cry it out method doesnt harm kids
Was this every really in doubt?
It is tough to commit to the approach, but the idea that it was or could be harmful never entered my mind.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 6:56 am to TJGator1215
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Study: Cry it out method doesnt harm kids
Of course it doesn't. I thought that was pretty clear.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 6:59 am to TJGator1215
We started to put our kid on a schedule when he was a few weeks old. We weren't rigid about it (babywise) but his feedings, baths, naps, we're all about the same time everyday.
We never really had to let him cry it out bc he knew that his crib meant bed time. He's 1.5 years now and goes down within 5 minutes of bring put in the crib to this day. He started sleeping thru the night at 8 weeks. Now he sleeps every night at 8pm. He usually wakes bt 6am and 730 depending on when he craps himself.
He also has never slept in my bedroom. He's been in his crib since the night he came home from the hospital. Video monitors are a wonderful thing.
We never really had to let him cry it out bc he knew that his crib meant bed time. He's 1.5 years now and goes down within 5 minutes of bring put in the crib to this day. He started sleeping thru the night at 8 weeks. Now he sleeps every night at 8pm. He usually wakes bt 6am and 730 depending on when he craps himself.
He also has never slept in my bedroom. He's been in his crib since the night he came home from the hospital. Video monitors are a wonderful thing.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:02 am to slackster
There are studies that show problems apparently.
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Babies left to cry have been shown to be stressed evenafter they do appear to be "sleep trained." Research conducted at the University of North Texas published in theEarly Human Developmentjournal in 2012 looked at 25 infants aged 4 to 10 months in a five-day inpatient sleep training program. Even though by the third night of being left to cry, they were crying less and falling asleep faster, the cortisol levels measured in their saliva remained high, indicating that they were just as physically "stressed" as if they had remained crying.Even once a baby does fall asleep, sleeping alone has long-term negative effects.
"Isolated sleeping is bad for babies," says Darcia Navarez, Ph.D., professor of psychology at the University of Notre Dame, who has done extensive research on responsive parenting, characterized by breastfeeding, frequent touch, soothing babies in distress, outdoor play, and a wider community of caregivers. She notes that animal studies show how even brief isolation can affect stress reactivity. "All sorts of systems can become disorganized when a baby is not 'in arms' with long-term effects on intelligence, social capacities, and health."The distress associated with crying it out can affect brain development. "Extensive distress in babyhood kills synapses, which are rapidly growing in the first years of life. This means that networks of connections between brain systems don't get established properly," says Narvaez. A key set of connections are from the prefrontal cortex to the older parts of the brain. When these are established well, they control primitive survival systems (anger, fear). If they are not, a child may develop anxiety and depression.It may also may lead to a higher probability of behavioral problems.
Narvaez notes that studies out of Harvard, Yale, Baylor, and other prestigious institutions show that the practice can kill off baby brain cells and lead to a higher risk of ADHD, poor academic performance, and anti-social tendencies.Prolonged crying can ultimately lower IQ. Dr. Rao and colleagues at the National Institutes of Health showed that infants with prolonged crying (not due to colic) in the first three months of life had an average IQ 9 points lower at
5.
They also showed poor fine motor development.Babies left to cry it out also have a higher chance of becoming more dependentlater on. Although the hope is that allowing a child to "self-soothe" will foster independence, Narvaez notes that it actually accomplishes the opposite: "It is more likely to foster a whiny, unhappy, aggressive, and/or demanding child, one who has learned that one must scream to get needs met."
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This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 7:03 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:06 am to TJGator1215
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There are studies that show problems apparently.
Yeah, but how long do they let the baby cry?
I don't think people here are letting their kid "cry it out" for 30 minutes or more.
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 7:07 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:07 am to KG6
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We can tell when it's really something and when he's just looking for attention.
This is key. Crying it out because they would rather play is okay. Crying it out because of ear ache, teething, gas, fever is not okay imo.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:13 am to jscrims
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My 1.5 goes to bed and sits up for a few minutes looking around and talking to himself
After seeing the ever reoccurring ghost threads on the OT, are you sure he's talking to himself?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:30 am to Emteein
I cry myself to sleep.
I don't have any problems...
I don't have any problems...
Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:40 am to Rhino5
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This is key. Crying it out because they would rather play is okay. Crying it out because of ear ache, teething, gas, fever is not okay imo.
Well the problem is that your 1yr can't tell u which it is. Fever you can tell but the others are much harder to figure out.
I had no issues with my son crying it out though my wife did. The roles were reversed with our daughter.
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 7:42 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:45 am to STEVED00
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Well the problem is that your 1yr can't tell u which it is.
True, but as a parent you can usually distinguish which cry is which. I mean there are time when my daughter is inconsolable and will give herself a headache unless we go get her, but more times than not, it is just a minor cry and that is that.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:46 am to GetCocky11
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I don't think people here are letting their kid "cry it out" for 30 minutes or more.
You would think wrong . I mean, we went in and soothed him once in a while, but at first, it took about an hour. The next night, half an hour, next 10 minutes. But that first night was definitely long.
Someone earlier mentioned their kid sleeping through the night at 8 weeks. My sister's son slept extremely well from the moment he was born. My son was a terror. We had to put our foot down at some point. We were losing it big time.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:50 am to STEVED00
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Well the problem is that your 1yr can't tell u which it is. Fever you can tell but the others are much harder to figure out.
Eh, drooling is teething, finger in ear is ear ache, gas is lifting legs to chest. There ya go...
Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:59 am to TJGator1215
No study needed. It's common sense.
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