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re: Vice Video: The New Wave of American Masculinity
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:49 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:49 am to Darth_Vader
quote:You're out of touch with reality if you don't think hipsters are getting laid. It wouldn't be trendy if you couldn't get laid.
I'd dare to say that bands like Def Leppard and Motley Crue in the 80's bedded women on a scale not seen since the days of the Mongols.
And for every hipster man, there's a hipster woman. They also tend to be less traditional when it comes to monogamy.
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:49 am to Darth_Vader
quote:
There's a growing trend with young 20somethings thinking and acting more like a 15 yr old than a 25 yr old. It's like they stuck in some sort of Peter Pan fantasy where they're afraid to grow up.
says the man in a made up motorcycle "gang"
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:50 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Is this what the condescending assholes believe we think is "masculine." I think slapping him for thinking this is far more masculine than any of his presumptuous bullshite.
fraternity hazings, monster truck rallies and food competitions
quote:Lemme guess. They're a bunch of pussies.
there is a growing movement of men who are coming together to challenge these conventions
quote:Confirmed.
a troupe of stay-at-home-dads and a radical men's group hosting a slumber party in the woods
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:52 am to Salmon
and I'm not denying that masculinity evolves with society, but that has always happened
I'm sure a man from 1850 would think men from the 1950s were pussies as well
I'm sure a man from 1850 would think men from the 1950s were pussies as well
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:52 am to Salmon
quote:
says the man in a made up motorcycle "gang
Can't come up with anything resembling an intelligent response so you resort to the same tired personal attack. You've retreated to the tactics of the OT trolls. I thought better of you than this.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:53 am to Darth_Vader
quote:I understand that this is your perception, but all you're really doing is painting an entire generation with broad strokes based on your own personal observations and biases. What evidence do you have to suggest this is really true?
Some are. But they're becoming less and less. And I'm not just talking about the hipsters. There's a growing trend with young 20somethings thinking and acting more like a 15 yr old than a 25 yr old. It's like they stuck in some sort of Peter Pan fantasy where they're afraid to grow up.
My experience with 20-somethings is not at all like yours.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:53 am to Darth_Vader
quote:
Can't come up with anything resembling an intelligent response so you resort to the same tired personal attack. You've retreated to the tactics of the OT trolls.
its not a personal attack
its called perspective
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I like those.
their youtube videos are much better and more interesting
quote:
1. climate change is here and will kill us; we need new energy sources
2. third world countries are terrible and do terrible things. here's one way that you haven't seen them be terrible!
pretty much, but their FB page is almost nothing but SJW nonsense.Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:59 am to Salmon
I think it's safe to say blame can be put upon the parents. And who are the new effeminate males in America? I'd say it's safe to say 15-30 year olds fit within that category. That would put their parents at 40-55 years old today. Meaning their parents were born between 1961 and 1976. So their parents were offspring of the "greatest generation". Those that fought in WW2.
We can assume (by generalization of course) that the millenials grandparents were blue collar, salt of the earth people, who worked to provide a living for the family. We can also assume that some of their children sought to rebel against being brought up the way they were brought up. So in that effort, they essentially coddled their children (the millennials) and instead of saying no, said yes way too much. Which begets the current crop of sissy males in America. Granted this isn't every situation, and i do believe the sissy males are more of an outlier than what is common, especially in the south. But i believe they are products of rebellious parents wishing to raise their children opposite of their own. So now you have the current crop of effeminate teens and 20 somethings with no job prospects, expecting things handed to them because they never had to work for anything. These same do nothings think that they are special and that they need a cause. So they make up affronts to their being, and take up ridiculous causes based on greed and jealousy of others such as occupy wall street, black lives matter, and other "social justice" issues to give their young dumb lives meaning. Meanwhile, they are turning down careers, or run away from paths that could lead to careers because it may be too hard.
We can assume (by generalization of course) that the millenials grandparents were blue collar, salt of the earth people, who worked to provide a living for the family. We can also assume that some of their children sought to rebel against being brought up the way they were brought up. So in that effort, they essentially coddled their children (the millennials) and instead of saying no, said yes way too much. Which begets the current crop of sissy males in America. Granted this isn't every situation, and i do believe the sissy males are more of an outlier than what is common, especially in the south. But i believe they are products of rebellious parents wishing to raise their children opposite of their own. So now you have the current crop of effeminate teens and 20 somethings with no job prospects, expecting things handed to them because they never had to work for anything. These same do nothings think that they are special and that they need a cause. So they make up affronts to their being, and take up ridiculous causes based on greed and jealousy of others such as occupy wall street, black lives matter, and other "social justice" issues to give their young dumb lives meaning. Meanwhile, they are turning down careers, or run away from paths that could lead to careers because it may be too hard.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 10:01 am to Salmon
quote:
its not a personal attack
its called perspective
Perspective? You just insulted me with the usual OT bullshite about my MC. How do you have any "perspective" about me or my club when you've never met me nor know anything about any club I belong to?
And what does my MC have to do with what is being discussed here? Nothing. But as usual, when I say something that upsets you, you fall back to that. It makes you look petty and small. Like you can't think of anything to reply with so you just turn to insults. And you know what they say about someone in a debate when they resort to insults. Like I said, I thought you better than that but I guess I was wrong.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 10:02 am to Darth_Vader
quote:
You just insulted me with the usual OT bullshite about my MC
was it an insult? or simply stating a fact?
quote:
And what does my MC have to do with what is being discussed here?
it can be perceived as childish
that was the point
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 10:03 am
Posted on 5/10/16 at 10:02 am to BugAC
Don't try to generalize any harder
Posted on 5/10/16 at 10:03 am to ProjectP2294
quote:
It was almost like a competition. "Hey watch how much I can look like a woman and still bang more chicks than you!"
Prince won that competition
Posted on 5/10/16 at 10:05 am to BugAC
quote:I know a lot of young professionals in NYC who agree with social justice causes. Your notion that it's a bunch of effeminate deadbeats is off the mark, at least based on my own anecdotal observations.
I think it's safe to say blame can be put upon the parents. And who are the new effeminate males in America? I'd say it's safe to say 15-30 year olds fit within that category. That would put their parents at 40-55 years old today. Meaning their parents were born between 1961 and 1976. So their parents were offspring of the "greatest generation". Those that fought in WW2.
We can assume (by generalization of course) that the millenials grandparents were blue collar, salt of the earth people, who worked to provide a living for the family. We can also assume that some of their children sought to rebel against being brought up the way they were brought up. So in that effort, they essentially coddled their children (the millennials) and instead of saying no, said yes way too much. Which begets the current crop of sissy males in America. Granted this isn't every situation, and i do believe the sissy males are more of an outlier than what is common, especially in the south. But i believe they are products of rebellious parents wishing to raise their children opposite of their own. So now you have the current crop of effeminate teens and 20 somethings with no job prospects, expecting things handed to them because they never had to work for anything. These same do nothings think that they are special and that they need a cause. So they make up affronts to their being, and take up ridiculous causes based on greed and jealousy of others such as occupy wall street, black lives matter, and other "social justice" issues to give their young dumb lives meaning. Meanwhile, they are turning down careers, or run away from paths that could lead to careers because it may be too hard.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 10:05 am
Posted on 5/10/16 at 10:05 am to Salmon
quote:
I don't think more women graduating college is demasculating men
demasculating men and organizing our education in that manner has led to more women graduating
the system has shifted to where it's built for female brains/behaviors and men are struggling
Posted on 5/10/16 at 10:07 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the system has shifted to where it's built for female brains/behaviors and men are struggling
Examples? I'm curious.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 10:07 am to Salmon
Again, you're disparaging something you know nothing about for no other reason than I said things that upset you. Every time you do this you look more and more petty.
What you're doing is no different than if you'd said something I didn't like so I started putting down some aspect of your life that I have no clue about.
What you're doing is no different than if you'd said something I didn't like so I started putting down some aspect of your life that I have no clue about.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 10:08 am to Darth_Vader
quote:
The main blame should go to
1. Liberal progressives (starting in the 60's)
2. Feminist
The main blame should go to the 19th Amendment
Posted on 5/10/16 at 10:08 am to SlowFlowPro
WTF did I just watch?
Posted on 5/10/16 at 10:09 am to NIH
Wow, that video really opened my eyes. It made me realize that some men are so clueless as to what masculinity is. There is literally not one masculine man in the whole show. But the show is filled with men trying to be masculine.
Masculinity is about power. The power to do anything. And your power over another person, your power to stop their power. Modern laws, and ways have shifted physical power to mental power.
That's why things are shifting, most people have either bronze or brains. It used to be bronze were the leaders in this world, but now it's brains, and bronze aren't doing as well.
Masculinity is about power. The power to do anything. And your power over another person, your power to stop their power. Modern laws, and ways have shifted physical power to mental power.
That's why things are shifting, most people have either bronze or brains. It used to be bronze were the leaders in this world, but now it's brains, and bronze aren't doing as well.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 10:14 am
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