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re: SIAP: In 1971 Paterno told victim to drop rape claim vs Sandusky
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:23 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:23 pm to Roger Klarvin
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This wasn't about protecting a legacy, there was no legacy to protect in the early 70s.
Then what was the reason for protection in the early 70s if he was just a lowly position coach? Was there still no legacy to protect in 1998?
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:29 pm to nvasil1
I have no idea why he didn't fire him in 1971 if he knew about this. My only guess would be that people just didn't talk about that kind of thing back then.
And of course in 1998 there was, but he had decades to do something before that. Sandusky wasn't regarded as an elite coach until the early 80s and apparently he was a known pedo for 10 years prior to that. I genuinely would be interested in knowing what Paterno's mindset was in the early days if in fact he knew.
And of course in 1998 there was, but he had decades to do something before that. Sandusky wasn't regarded as an elite coach until the early 80s and apparently he was a known pedo for 10 years prior to that. I genuinely would be interested in knowing what Paterno's mindset was in the early days if in fact he knew.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:30 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:They are autonomous. They can sanction anything they want. Anytime an NCAA program does something bad, that hurts the NCAA, so the NCAA is well within their moral right to seek its own correction. I understand your opinion, though.
I still maintain the NCAA has no business enforcing program sanctions over this.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:33 pm to ballscaster
So where does pressuring a victim into silence fall on the legality scale? Just curious.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:39 pm to jlnoles79
so because someone said it, this is true? sounds to me like someone wants their name in the spotlight now
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:46 pm to ballscaster
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They are autonomous. They can sanction anything they want.
This. They can point to a dearth of specific regulations in their made-up rules about an infraction of this kind all they want. There's no excuse for Penn State not having received the death penalty. None. If there ever is a program that should be made an example of, it's Penn State.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:51 pm to Roger Klarvin
Trust me, I struggled with the NCAA punishing the program like they did, too. But current players were allowed to transfer.
Regardless of how much blame is put at Joe Pa's feet, the likelihood of a serial rapist getting away with it in a community like State College for so many years seems poor, unless he had some valued public standing that warranted protection. Sandusky had that towards the end of his career and it was only because he was a great football coach.
That's why I've never had a problem with the NCAA's punishment. Penn State allowed Sandusky to roam free because of football. People complained about the precedent they set, but there had never been such a scummy tale before and hopefully it will never happen again.
Regardless of how much blame is put at Joe Pa's feet, the likelihood of a serial rapist getting away with it in a community like State College for so many years seems poor, unless he had some valued public standing that warranted protection. Sandusky had that towards the end of his career and it was only because he was a great football coach.
That's why I've never had a problem with the NCAA's punishment. Penn State allowed Sandusky to roam free because of football. People complained about the precedent they set, but there had never been such a scummy tale before and hopefully it will never happen again.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:57 pm to jlnoles79
I fail to see where JoePa silenced anyone. This needs more than just that's joe paterno because of his voice . As for the Assistants Fukk them all.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:57 pm to jlnoles79
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Victim A said he told his foster parents about the incident, and his foster father told him to call a couple of high-ranking officials at Penn State.
The father is a dumbass in this case.
He should have gone straight to the people that is literally paid to handle matters like this, the local police department or sheriff's office or local State Police unit, not some idiots who's biggest interest is to protect Penn State from bad press.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:00 pm to TJGator1215
quote:
TJGator1215
Why do you insist on defending someone who for decades defended a serial child rapist? You are scum
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:09 pm to Roger Klarvin
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I still maintain the NCAA has no business enforcing program sanctions over this. It's a purely legal matter. The NCAA exists to legislate conduct related to competitive fairness, not felony activity unrelated to sports.
This.
No matter how hard you try to argue it, Sandusky may be an evil thug piece of shite that deserves to dragged to death after being drawn and quartered but his atrocious crimes did not give Penn State an unfair competitive advantage over other teams.
Arguing against that is nothing more than emotional recoil seeking its pound of flesh.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:13 pm to ballscaster
quote:
They are autonomous. They can sanction anything they want. Anytime an NCAA program does something bad, that hurts the NCAA, so the NCAA is well within their moral right to seek its own correction. I understand your opinion, though.
I didn't say they couldn't, just that they shouldn't.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:21 pm to Roger Klarvin
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just that they shouldn't.
I couldn't disagree more. This is the exact situation where they SHOULD do something and make a statement and make an example out of Penn State. They do and should have a stake in the actions of their member institutions when those actions include aiding and abetting a child rapist - one who commits at least some of those acts IN THE TEAM'S LOCKER ROOM.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:23 pm to lsu2006
The NCAA has no business delegate punishments for legal issues that provided no advantages. There was no academic fraud, payment of players, or recruiting violations. That is not their job.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:24 pm to sms151t
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sms151t
You've lost every shred of credibility on this topic. You can run along now.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:28 pm to lsu2006
Oh emotion gets you nowhere in this. The NCAA fricked it up. They know they did.
They had no business in this case.
This was a legal case.
They had no business in this case.
This was a legal case.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:31 pm to lsu2006
Because just like the court of law saying you knew someone A) Tried to silence you by calling the cops B) Can identify someone based on their voice alone because you heard it a million times after the fact is absurd.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:31 pm to lsu2006
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This is the exact situation where they SHOULD do something and make a statement and make an example out of Penn State.
This is just vengeance, not justice. Now I understand wanting vengeance for something like this and perhaps on some level they deserve it, but it's absolutely not the intent behind the NCAA's authority.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:32 pm to Sentrius
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but his atrocious crimes did not give Penn State an unfair competitive advantage over other teams.
So continuing to employ a proven great defensive coordinator gives no competitive advantage?
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:32 pm to Roger Klarvin
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This is just vengeance, not justice.
Or deterrence.
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