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TOPS Only Requires an ACT of 20
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:51 am
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:51 am
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Holy shite. I had a 25 the first time I took it as a freshman. Are you telling me you can get essentially a scholarship with only a 20? I know Louisiana public education sucks, but c'mon bros.
Racist ACT scores?
Holy shite. I had a 25 the first time I took it as a freshman. Are you telling me you can get essentially a scholarship with only a 20? I know Louisiana public education sucks, but c'mon bros.
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“Some legislators want to increase the bar to 24,” Caillier said. “If you did that, you’d eliminate 80 percent of the minority students.
“We will fight any attempt to raise the ACT score above 20 because if you do that, then you start impacting these kids. And that was the original intent.”
Racist ACT scores?
This post was edited on 1/26/16 at 10:57 am
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:53 am to Poncho
I know of some people who didn't have great ACT scores but still succeeded in college. One of those people are going back and getting a second degree in engineering. ACT scores are no measures of intelligence.
eta: now i see the original point of the OP. Sorry. I think it's really stupid to refuse to raise academic standards because some people can't keep up.
If everyone is held to the same standard, that's not racist.
Holding a particular race to a lower standard than other races is the definition of racist.
eta: now i see the original point of the OP. Sorry. I think it's really stupid to refuse to raise academic standards because some people can't keep up.
If everyone is held to the same standard, that's not racist.
Holding a particular race to a lower standard than other races is the definition of racist.
This post was edited on 1/26/16 at 10:56 am
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:54 am to Poncho
quote:Oh well. They should have a lower standard due to the fact that they're minority?
If you did that, you’d eliminate 80 percent of the minority students.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:54 am to Poncho
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“Some legislators want to increase the bar to 24,” Caillier said. “If you did that, you’d eliminate 80 percent of the minority students.
Really? 80% of minority students can't achieve an ACT score that is roughly in the 50th percentile?
Yikes.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:55 am to Poncho
This needed to happen a long time ago. The intention of TOPS is a good thing, but in reality, it sends a ton of kids to college that really shouldn't be there.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:56 am to Poncho
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Racist ACT scores?
Good ole bigotry of low expectations
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:56 am to Poncho
My 7th grader just took it in December and got a 23.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:56 am to Poncho
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:58 am to Poncho
Why don't they just tier TOPS awards??
If you score a 19 -24 on the ACT And still meet the GPA requirement, you can get a full ride to community college, or only receive partial payment to 4 year college.
If you have the score but not the GPA, you receive partial payment to community college or free tuition to a trade or technical.
If you score a 19 -24 on the ACT And still meet the GPA requirement, you can get a full ride to community college, or only receive partial payment to 4 year college.
If you have the score but not the GPA, you receive partial payment to community college or free tuition to a trade or technical.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:58 am to Poncho
Isn't it maintained in college by GPA?
So who cares if someone gets a 20 or a 30... if they don't keep the GPA throughout undergrad, they will be paying their way.
So who cares if someone gets a 20 or a 30... if they don't keep the GPA throughout undergrad, they will be paying their way.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:58 am to Poncho
ACT scores do not a great college student make.
The ACT doesn't measure the most important factor of college success: dedication.
The ACT doesn't measure the most important factor of college success: dedication.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:59 am to Poncho
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because if you do that, then you start impacting these kids. And that was the original intent.”
Actually, the original intent was to give minority/disadvantaged students an incentive to bust their asses to get good enough grades to get into, AND GRADUATE FROM, college.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:59 am to Poncho
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Some legislators want to increase the bar to 24,” Caillier said. “If you did that, you’d eliminate 80 percent of the minority students
holy shite
HO-LY shite
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:00 am to Poncho
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“If you did that, you’d eliminate 80 percent of the minority students.
Then maybe they should actually study and prepare for the test if it will mean free money for college. College isn't for everyone. Let a higher ACT weed out the dumb ones that are just wasting state money until they lose their TOPS after the first semester.
Still pisses me off that TOPS went into effect for 1997 grads, when I graduated in 1996.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:01 am to Poncho
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Are you telling me you can get essentially a scholarship with only a 20?
It definitely needs to be raised
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“Some legislators want to increase the bar to 24,” Caillier said. “If you did that, you’d eliminate 80 percent of the minority students.
but holy shite at this statement
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:01 am to Poncho
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Racist ACT scores
yes
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:02 am to Poncho
It should have been raised a long time ago
Should also have to be paid back if degree is not complete in 5 years
Should also have to be paid back if degree is not complete in 5 years
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:02 am to Poncho
Is this where we post our ACT scores? I got a 32, broken down thus:
Reading: 35
Math: 33
English: 31
Science: 29
I took it about 15 years ago, but I remember the scores because my brothers and I are in a life-long competition on everything. I won the ACT competition against them by 1 point.
Reading: 35
Math: 33
English: 31
Science: 29
I took it about 15 years ago, but I remember the scores because my brothers and I are in a life-long competition on everything. I won the ACT competition against them by 1 point.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:04 am to Poncho
The problem is we are wasting money as a state paying for too many dipshits to waste their freshman year in college when they have no business being there.
BTW, I made a 37 when I was in 2nd grade.
BTW, I made a 37 when I was in 2nd grade.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:07 am to Poncho
quote:Yes, so if you don't score a 20 or higher, you don't deserve TOPS. And don't forget to make your kids take Physics.
TOPS Only Requires an ACT of 20
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