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re: Can we as a fan base not recognize that young QB's develop over time?

Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:53 am to
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10123 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:53 am to
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Wrong,Mett was developed when he got here.
Mett's first 4 SEC starts avg RAT was around 90, so evidently not plugnplay.
During the bye before 2012 Bama game things started slowing down for him (his words iirc).
Posted by illuminatic
Manipulating politicans&rappers
Member since Sep 2012
6963 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:55 am to
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Let's give Harris 3 more years before we write him off.


Be patient guys. It will click for Harris his rookie year in the NFL. Don't worry.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:56 am to
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I just checked the QB ratings and JL &JJ had higher qb ratings than Mett...to me that makes your charts crap


Mett had a 171.4 QB Rating in 2013 (4th in country). He also had the 4th highest completion %, the 3rd highest yards per pass

Lee had a 152 in 2011 and JJ had a 138.7
This post was edited on 12/11/15 at 9:58 am
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5640 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:57 am to
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Name me one QB who has developed under this staff
Gosh, I don't know. Maybe ALL of them that started for more than one year?

Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
6922 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:59 am to
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Can we as a fan base not recognize that young QB's develop over time?


Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:59 am to
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Cameron has a history of developing QB's all through the NFL

This is his problem. He isn't in the NFL anymore and he's not adjusting his philosophies to the fact that he doesn't have 5 years to make a QB serviceable. In the college ranks, you have around 1 season of "learning" time then you need to be good if you're going to be an asset to the program. We can't have QB's confused as shite and floundering for 3 years before they become serviceable, that isn't how college football works especially when you need a guy to produce as a sophomore
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:59 am to
Where are you getting your QB Rating numbers from?

Mett had over a 170 in 2013, but you have him in the 150s
This post was edited on 12/11/15 at 10:01 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:01 am to
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Mett had a 171.4 QB Rating in 2013 (4th in country). He also had the 4th highest completion %, the 3rd highest yards per pass Lee had a 152 in 2011 and JJ had a 138.7


I knew something had to be wrong
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5640 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:03 am to
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Uh...I was at the Syracuse game and they had a QB that was so far down the depth chart that they had to scramble just to get his name in the program - I think he was a 5th string walk-on or some such shite. Point is, he played pretty damn good.
Un-fricking-believable.

Zack Mahoney was 16 of 38 (42.1%) with a QB Rating of 96.95.

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This is not happening because the kid has no talent or is too young. He has tons of talent and there are way too many examples of kids at his age and experience level doing just fine in big-boy college football.
Do you mean like your football QB god, Zack Mahoney?!?!?

Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:03 am to
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why do we continue to make excuses?


Because Miles is a good family man.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5640 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:05 am to
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Where are you getting your QB Rating numbers from?

Mett had over a 170 in 2013, but you have him in the 150s

Compare apples to apples and compare oranges to oranges.

My stats are coming from SEC Regular Season Games.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:08 am to
You're the king of presenting stats in a completely fricked up biased way to support whatever you want to believe. Really, it's impressive
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:09 am to
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My stats are coming from SEC Regular Season Games.


so your stats (facts) were incomplete and a lie when I made my comment earlier...and you said morons refuse to accept facts? My assessment was correct.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:10 am to
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that should have been grounds for termination right then and there.


If what they told you was true, then I agree. A coach who can't control the locker room and allows the team to become divided into camps over who the QB is has no business being a head coach.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59421 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:11 am to
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Zack Mahoney was 16 of 38 (42.1%) with a QB Rating of 96.95.



And he's a walk-on, junior-college transfer quarterback.

Harris had a worse performance against Bama.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41313 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:11 am to
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You're the king of presenting stats in a completely fricked up biased way to support whatever you want to believe. Really, it's impressive


He's not. CptBengal is better at pushing an agenda by using cherry picked stats to hate on the program.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:12 am to
But does he type long paragraphs that include bold and italics to make it seem like he knows what he's talking about and has a strong point?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:12 am to
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Compare apples to apples and compare oranges to oranges.

My stats are coming from SEC Regular Season Games.




So it ignores the SECCG and Alabama NC game?

That's convenient.

TCU, WVU, and Oregon > at least half of the SEC. I can understand adjusting for power 5 teams, but you're leaving out those games to inflate JJ
This post was edited on 12/11/15 at 10:14 am
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41313 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:13 am to
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But does he type long paragraphs that include bold and italics to make it seem like he knows what he's talking about and has a strong point?


No. You are correct.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5640 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:15 am to
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You're the king of presenting stats in a completely fricked up biased way to support whatever you want to believe. Really, it's impressive


Already went ad hominem?!?!? Can't attack the facts so you attack the person who posts the stats?

Please correct my stats if they are wrong.

Show how they are wrong.

Show how Jefferson, Lee, and Mett did not get better from their first year starting to their last year starting.
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