re: Possible reason why offense passes just deep downfield

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completely non-creative play calling. It's obviously all by design. Not sure why our WR weren't catching balls they should have been catching though

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the WR's dropping passes is all part of the secret plan also. Make bama think our WR suck arse so that come the big game we can catch them off guard. Quinn dropping those passes in last years bama game was even more forward thinking because we knew this was going to be the year we would make a run at the NC. Quinn is our double secret weapon.

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I would work the middle

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there will be no middle passes in the LSU offense. been like that since 2009.

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2008.

Jarrett Lee.

16 Interceptions (6 returned for TD's)

That is the ONE and only reason.

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That's it. Miles needs psychiatric treatment to recover from that nightmare. He has an unabiding fear of interceptions that affects QB play and palycalling. That fear transfers to his QBs and adversely affects their play. They tend to play scared rather than loose. The play calling is generally very conservative, based on that fear.

Serious question. Has there been any other team over the last 11 years that has had trouble developing QBs like LSU? Or are we fans just crying wolf without a factual basis?

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2008 changed miles. a lot.

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Passing in football is sort of like the 3 point shot in basketball. The QB is your 3-point shooter. He must have confidence in his 3-point shot to be a good 3 point shooter. Teams with good 3-point shooters have coaches that tell a shooter that if he does not take open 3-point shots he will sit them. The opposite of the coaches who fear 3-point misses and sits their shooters for missing a few 3-point shots. The fear of missing causes misses. The fear of failure causes failure.

Miles is the old school score the 2-point rather than 3-point shot because the odds of success is greater. However, the greater odds are offset by the extra point received for a 3-pointer. It seems Miles would rather a QB be 8 of 17 for 120 yards, 1 TD with no interception over one being 20 of 30 for 275, 3 TDs and 2 interceptions. He prefers the 2-point play. However, like Golden State and Curry, the game is now a 3-point game. Curry is the ultimate 3-point shooter that has the green light to shoot wherever and wherever he chooses. And, as such, he has no fear and thus is a great 3-point shooter.

Brandon Harris, and LSU QBs in general, need to be given the green light to pass. The confidence gained will truly open up and transform the offence and allow the QBs to reach their full potential. Like a BB team with a great center or power forward, a 3-point shooter opens up the lane and benefits the power players. A passing game can only help Fournette, our great power forward, by opening up the "lane" for him to operate in more space. A good 3-point shooter and a great power player in basketball is a devastating combination, as is a a good passing game to compliment a great running game in football. But to attain that devastating combination, the coach can't be scared of the 3-point shot.

It's absolutely amazing to me that people will kinda criticize Cam but always stop short with a, maybe theres a secret playbook or some other excuse for him. But let Les, the big boss, make a silly little error and he's blasted non stop until they win the following week.

I still believe in Cam but its time to put up or give some of that money back. You have a NFL OL, a once in a generation RB, NFL WR's and we still cant complete a forward pass? This is poor. I dont count pitches on jet sweeps as forward passes. How hard is it to give it to Leonard 25-30 times up the middle, add in a jet sweep or two and then give it to Guice and Williams a few times up the middle?
Just once I would like to see my OC actually create a play that leaves a WR wide open 12-15 yards downfield.

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The old 'hide-the-cards-until-we-really-need-to-show-them' trick, eh?

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The LSU offense looked MUCH different against Auburn than it has the last two games. None of us know how much the passing game may, or may not, develop over the course of the season but everyone knows that the offense was beyond vanilla against EMU. Whether that's the right thing to do or not can be argued, but not the fact that it was as basic as it ever gets.

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How hard is it to give it to Leonard 25-30 times up the middle, add in a jet sweep or two and then give it to Guice and Williams a few times up the middle?

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Everybody says that yet if you look back through Cam's history the drop off in the running game the year after he leaves places is dramatic, and it's not because the passing game improves to any significant degree.

Can you not see a difference in the play calling between the Auburn game and Saturday? There was no motion. There wasn't any wrinkle at all. There was the read option that Harris scored on and they could have done that all day long if they chose too. I'm not saying there's some huge "secret playbook" but the last two games were as vanilla as one can get.

Ray Rice had two NFL seasons under Cam when he had more than 75 catches. LaDainian had a season under Cam when he caught 100 balls.

Don't blame Cam for poor offenses before he got here. His offense in 2013 was impressive, and it stunk last year with youth everywhere. I still strongly believe this will be a very scary offensive over the second half of the season. Maybe I'll be wrong, but I'm willing to see before going into full-on panic.

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I remember encouraging myself with this thought one of Mett's years as QB. Sure enough, come the bama game, we saw some much more interesting (and effective) calls. It still was not enough but I was much more impressed with the play book.

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We owned them on the passing game. Mett had around 300 yards that game and couldn't be stopped. We had all doubted the playcalling prior to that game, but they came out on fire.