re: So When does LSU Play a Complete Game? (Passing Game Stats Inside)

quote:

---

also, the structure of the passing game in general is just bad for college football. cameron expects too much of kids he only gets to coach 3-4 years, miles/cam want to rely almost exclusively on sideline routes, and they don't use backs, TEs, or screens.

---

Don't you think that this year, through 4 games, Harris looks MUCH better early than he does later? And the gameplan is better? I was thrilled at the play action passing, and that we've actually utilized the tight end infinitely more this year than last.

The problem is, as soon as Harris confidence gets shaken, whether it be from a drop or a poor throw, it seems like we just shut down the passing game and ride LF. That's what bothers me.

I've seen the potential, this year, in game situations. So I know we are capable of mixing up the calls. And I know Harris is capable of making the throws. And the receivers can catch. I just think we tend to play up or down to the competition.

My biggest complaint about last night was how we simply gave up on the pass, shut it down, and rode the run, knowing that as time goes on, we will have to rely more on the pass. I don't get that. But don't you admit that at times, you've seen play calling and execution from the passing game that you NEVER saw last year?

quote:

---

The full on obsession some of you have with passing while ignoring the fact that the team may end up being one of the best running teams in history is amusing at this point.

It shows that you don't really care about winning by any means necessary, you care about flash.

If lsu is so bad and you think the coaches are so terrible, then why is lsu still in the top 10?
Honest answer would be great but I realize I'll get nothin but bull shite

---

the posts about passing doesn't have anything to do about flash.

it's about the execution of the passing game. nobody is saying you have to throw for 400/game, but execute the plays that you run well and effectively. We do not have this, and are wondering how it can be remedied before our bigger SEC games in November.

However, it seems as if it is your life mission to seek and destroy any criticisms of miles, cameron, or anything of the like.

Passing with execution and consistency is not FLASH, like you are obviously obsessed with saying.

I'm honestly more concerned about the penalties and special teams play than I am about the passing game. The former have stalled drives, affected field position, and directly taken/given points.

I do not think that Ole Miss, Florida, Carolina, Arkansas, or Texas A&M are capable of stopping Fournette and forcing us to rely on an admittedly horrible passing game. Against Ole Miss and Texas A&M specifically, who I believe pose the greatest threat of those named, an effective rushing attack and clock control is more beneficial than an adequate passing attack.

I am concerned about Alabama. Their front seven is stout and just held Nick Chubb in check while they allowed Chad Kelly to pass for for 350 with 3 TDs. After the beating they just put on Georgia, I don't see them losing to any team, save LSU, remaining on their schedule so winning that game is a must to make it to Atlanta.

quote:

---

The full on obsession some of you have with passing

---

wanting to be outside of the 5 worst passing teams in the nation is not a "full on obsession", especially when we will need a much better passing game to win a national title (as history has proven)

quote:

---

while ignoring the fact that the team may end up being one of the best running teams in history is amusing at this point.

---

we're not even #1 this year

hell, baylor has more rushing ypg and a higher ypc than LSU does

quote:

---

It shows that you don't really care about winning by any means necessary, you care about flash.

---

no i care about winning. that's why i want a balanced offense. you care about having the "best running teams in history" at the expense of winning

we have beaten 3 bad-terrible teams and 1 mediocre team. we are an elite team, so we're supposed to do that

i'm worried about our inability to win against teams based around on passing game issues. i don't care if we don't pass against EMU, but i care that we can't pass against EMU. I don't care because of that game, i care about the process/big picture. failing to be able to pass against MSU, Auburn, Syracuse, and EMU creates a trend. that trend is worrisome when facing actually good competition. that creates a worry to win those games

quote:

---

I do not think that Ole Miss, Florida, Carolina, Arkansas, or Texas A&M are capable of stopping Fournette and forcing us to rely on an admittedly horrible passing game.

---

No offense, but if you don't believe that Ole Miss and Florida front 7 are capable of stopping our run, then I don't know what to tell you.

quote:

---

But don't you admit that at times, you've seen play calling and execution from the passing game that you NEVER saw last year?

---

the sample of adequate passing is very small, but there is nothing different this year. i'd imagine that we're actually worse this year

Any game that has a W next to the result is a complete game in my book.

quote:

---

We had to.

---

quote:

---

Abandoning the pass was needed last night in order to secure a win.

---

I disagree.

We could have chosen to stayed with the pass to give BH more confidence in knowing he can deliver when the chips are down.

We CHOSE to abandon the pass. I hate the message that sent to BH. I think he would have risen to the occasion easily. Like I said earlier, LSU tends to rise to the occasion. We took the easy way out. That might hurt us down the road, and I think that's what people might be expressing.