re: So When does LSU Play a Complete Game? (Passing Game Stats Inside)

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It is clear to me that the game is still too fast for BH and he isn't comfortable. The best way to fix this is reps, film study, more reps and more film

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simplifying the game would help a great deal

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At some point we hope it clicks and the game slows down for BH to the point where he sees the field, knows where to go with the football and puts it there for his WRs to catch it.

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even scrub teams are doing an OK job at taking away our routes. BH can't make magic happen when his options are limited

when you severely limit your passing game by taking away half of the field (the middle half), teams can key in on the sidelines

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If any of you feel like BH is the wrong guy to play QB or CC is the wrong guy to teach him then you have a legit complaint.

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it's the latter. BH is limited by our overall passing game, the routes offered, the OL's inability to pass block, and our WRs in general

BH would be playing balls out for Auburn right now, for example (and i'm still so happy he didn't go there)

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But your complaints won't change anything

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i'm not even complaining. i gave up on 1-9-12 with miles changing re: passing. i'm just posting statistical data and explaining why people are very anxious. we have seen this script before, and it doesn't end in a national title for LSU.

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You seem to have your bitch-mode turned on for next week. You need to define what a perfect game is.

Based on rantard expectations, a perfect game will include
- a shut-out
- less than 100 yards yielded to the opposition
- 700+ yards for tigers
- 5 sacks
- 2 interceptions
- 1 interception return touchdown
- 1 punt return touch down
- 1 kick-off return touchdown
- 2 bone-jarring plays on special teams with one fumble recovery
- all kick-offs should sail through the end zone, at the same time, pin them behind 10 yard line
- don't have to punt, at the same time all punts should be inside the 5-yard line
- 250+ yards for LF
- 2 more RBs with 100+yard game
- QB goes for 300 yards
- 2 big gain plays for TEs down the middle

Define what makes you happy. Not just prep yourself for another bitch-fest.

- oh! a 55 yard field goal
- a trick play also
- 2 fourth down conversions, while converting 100% on third downs

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No. There were no complaints about the offense after AU. That was about as perfect a game as could be played.

Too bad we don't pay them every week

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do you think we're going to magically just have a good passing offense when we need it

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Last night wrecked my irrational optimism. Not throwing doesn't bother me. Not being able to throw scares the crap out of me. I think that if you bump this thread in mid November you may have been proven extremely prescient.

You should know by now what the fan expectation is with miles...perfect game is not one of them.

Clever response though

Im starting to hate our defense too


Maybe we pull a 2012 bama and it just clicks but there are no landrys or beckhams on this team. Dupre should have had a td last nite but let some guy shove him aside and dural looks lost half the time.

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The funny thing is that every year it seems that you bitch and complain about miles not riding his most talented player and bull shite like that.

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link?

i do like how this mythology has developed

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This year he is playing the team's strength and riding the once in a generation fournette and then you move the goal posts to bitch about something else.

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i'm "moving the goal posts" from an argument that i literally have not made. you are combining a slew of logical fallacies to create this mega straw man

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Passing Yards/Game: 123 (LSU)
Total Attempts: 124-T (LSU)

Yards/Completion: 74 (LSU)
Yards/Attempt: 108 (LSU)
QB Rating (ESPN): 108 (LSU)
NCAA Efficiency: 105 (Brandon Harris)

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Put plainly, this is not good enough. We have to hope that we don't face a team that can stop a rushing attack that ranks among the top 5 in both rushing yards (4th) and yards per carry (2nd). I truly believe that we can beat everyone with the exception of Bama by running into the teeth of the defense. Our run blocking and Fournette are that good.

Against Alabama, Harris is going to have to convert some third downs with his feet and make some critical throws in pressure situations.

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look at the stats. super run-heavy teams dominate in ypc because of the opportunities the running game is SUPPOSED to give the passing game

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PI/holding penalties have taken away what would/could have been some long gains. If 3 of those PI penalties would have resulted in 30 yard gains (completely plausible considering where they occurred), Harris would have 65 attempts for 472 yards, or 7.26 YPA, which would be 65th in the country. Obviously that is purely hypothetical, but that is what happens when you have the sample size that LSU has.

Also, I hear everyone complain about the lack of an intermediate passing game, yet we are well below average in yards per completion, which would imply that we are relying on our short to intermediate passing game.

Honestly, I think all of the passing game problems are blown way out to proportion based on the sample size.

We've had 62 attempts, 5 sacks, and 4 accepted penalties, for a total of 71 passing attempts. We've had more drop backs than that, but it is impossible to tell looking at a play-by-play whether it was a designed run or if Harris just took off on his own.

Out of those 71 attempts, 5.6% resulted in penalties on the defense, 7% resulted in sacks. Out of the 62 thrown balls, 12 have gone to RBs or TEs. That is a pretty healthy number.

I can't find YAC numbers, but if you take away the bombs to Dural (51 yards) and Dupre (42 yards), you've got 9.32 yards per completion, which would be 3rd to last in the country. That should dispel the myth that we lack an underneath passing game.

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Also, I hear everyone complain about the lack of an intermediate passing game, yet we are well below average in yards per completion, which would imply that we are relying on our short to intermediate passing game.

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no it means we're not busting out many really big passing plays (which DPI does influence)

the biggest thing about the ypc stats is the whole "look at who is with us in rushing attempts and their comparative ypc". that's what we SHOULD be getting, at least if the whole "our rushing game opens up the passing game" theory is true in reality. as of now it's just a theory (with a lot of DPIs admittedly skewing the numbers a bit)

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2009-2015 is not a small sample size. How many of these years has LSU finished 90th or worse in college football passing?

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That isn't the conversation at hand, is it?

This year, as I just pointed out, the we've thrown the ball very little. We have plenty of room for improvement, but 5-8 passes one way or the other skew the stats considerably.

Additionally, you're delusional if you think LSU would even be in the top half of the country in yards/game with Andrew Luck at QB. This offense is run first this year, and it will stay that way.

I can have a conversation about improving our efficiency, yards per attempt, and yards per completion. Anything else is just asking our offense to be flashy, which it is not, and should not be as long as Fournette is lining up in the backfield.