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re: USCs wins/title legit

Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:52 am to
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:52 am to
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Irrelevant. USC was never proven guilty


Irrelevant. USC played an ineligible player.
Posted by SquarePizzaRebel
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2013
2373 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:53 am to
Show me what proved the ineligibility.
This post was edited on 1/17/15 at 10:55 am
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:54 am to
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To me, USC still has those titles. Had Bush not gotten those incentives, was anything really going to be different? At all?



??

They won one title
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:54 am to
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I'm sorry. If child rapists get their wins reinstated, USCs run was legit


Penn State was penalized on the field for a criminal act that didn't involve on the field. USC played with ineligible players and its case was as clear cut an NCAA violation as you can get.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:55 am to
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Do people even know what the Reggie bush violations were? An agent paid his parents rent. The agents best interests were for Reggie bush to leave usc for the nfl as soon as possible. Usc didn't pay Reggie bush, nor did they gain any competitive advantage from this. If this was a usc booster paying bush or his family when he was in high school than that would be a completely different story. The agent was acting 100% against usc's best interests.



But it was also in the agent's best interest to have Bush at USC. He's not hooking up his mom with a condo in Lincoln and keeping the family under his wing if he commits to Nebraska.

USC knows its competitive advantage and flaunts it. If they didn't, they wouldn't have invited literally hundreds of Hollywood and hip-hop celebrities to ham it up on the sidelines with their players every weekend.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:56 am to
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1. Carroll
2. Meyer
3. Saban

FACT
Posted by SquarePizzaRebel
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2013
2373 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:57 am to
The point here is criticism towards the NCAA for their questionable actions of rewarding an organization that condoned the molestation and torment of children who weren't in a position to defend themselves. Rewarding scum in association with this in any capacity reflects poorly on them and I will be sure to let them know Monday. So are you saying you support their decision yesterday? Yikes.
Posted by SquarePizzaRebel
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2013
2373 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 11:00 am to
Vs Reggie Bush doing what we've seen players do every year. Their sanctions were ridiculous yet USC has managed to stay competitive with basically one string on both sides.
This post was edited on 1/17/15 at 11:02 am
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 11:13 am to
I don't think anyone's defending Penn State here. There's a simple lesson to be learned here. COOPERATE. Pretend that you're sorry. Like I said, why did programs like LSU and UNLV get punished in basketball but Roy Williams can do anything he wants? Because Roy Williams doesn't openly mock the NCAA every chance he gets. If USC wanted some lenience, they should have shut Mike Garrett up and maybe hire ANYBODY BUT LANE KIFFIN to lead them out of probation.

It sucks to swallow your pride and suck up to your superiors, especially when you know they're corrupt. But you just do it if you know what's good for you.
Posted by forksup
Member since Dec 2013
8817 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 11:14 am to
So, not even beneficial to USC. That sucks even more.
Posted by SquarePizzaRebel
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2013
2373 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 11:29 am to
See but how was it wrong for USC to leverage their location and Hollywoodness ? Why is that bad? It's Will Ferrell's fault for being a USC fan and at the same time one of the most respected comedians of our time? Same with Snoop Dogg? That's why they weren't sorry, and the NCAA couldn't swallow *their* pride.
Posted by SquarePizzaRebel
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2013
2373 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 11:30 am to
USC wasn't going to apologize for being successful.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 11:36 am to
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USC wasn't going to apologize for being successful.



That's the attitude that kept them punished. Sometimes you just fricking do it. I've apologized to my wife because of something she "thought" I did, because divorce is not a preferable option.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12869 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 11:41 am to
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But it was also in the agent's best interest to have Bush at USC. He's not hooking up his mom with a condo in Lincoln and keeping the family under his wing if he commits to Nebraska.



wow. you do realize that his parents didn't start getting paid til his sophomore season, correct? this had nothing to do with bush choosing usc out of high school. bush is one of the greatest college players in recent history and would have been successful at nebraska, iowa, arkansas, georgia, wherever. greedy agents would have tracked him down anywhere in the country he was playing.
Posted by SquarePizzaRebel
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2013
2373 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 11:43 am to
I hear your two cents and I really do appreciate it. For the record, I don't mean to take away from LSU and I still want to see USC-LSU home home. A natural rivalry was created as both teams were seeing success and kind of paralleling each other across the country. Athletes for days. And cheers to y'all's win against us this year (My Rebs).

Really, I just hate the f'n NCAA at this point
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145357 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 11:44 am to
I love it. It wouldn't have given me a glorious shite fit thrown yesterday
Posted by SquarePizzaRebel
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2013
2373 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 11:46 am to
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 11:49 am to
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greedy agents would have tracked him down anywhere in the country he was playing.


Point taken. But it is easier for agents to reach them in Los Angeles. Especially when you have a program that has proven through its actions that it doesn't mind getting cozy with the most rich and powerful people in Southern California. I get that USC has no connection to what the agent did, but it might be a consequence of having an "open" program so to speak that undesirable elements get in.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12869 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 11:52 am to
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Especially when you have a program that has proven through its actions that it doesn't mind getting cozy with the most rich and powerful people in Southern California. I get that USC has no connection to what the agent did, but it might be a consequence of having an "open" program so to speak that undesirable elements get in.


whats the difference between having will farrell and snoop dogg attend practices and lebron james giving beats headphones to a whole team? usc isn't the only big name college football program, this shite happens everywhere, even at smaller universities in college towns.
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
10872 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 11:58 am to
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1. Carroll
2. Meyer
3. Saban

Got to see them all in their prime, crazy.
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