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re: LSU needs the Spread offense

Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:44 am to
Posted by HMTVBrian2
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:44 am to



They went shotgun like 75% of the time, with 3+ receivers. It was a spread offense.
Posted by LSUwag
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:45 am to
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Our offense is so simplistic. I don't even remember when's the last time a WR WENT IN MOTION pre-snap.


This, I agree with. They're dumbed it down to the point of sand lot football.
Posted by Reames239
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:45 am to
You're a sharp guy, but its all semantics.



LSU needs to modernize. Not full out Oregon, I would hate that. But if abandoning the entire term "pro style" as an identity is what is needed, then I think we should do it.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:46 am to
LSU doesn't run the power I
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:46 am to
Even what Arkansas and especially Bama run would be a big step in the right direction. Both run pro style offenses. Bama especially runs a lot of pro style spread. Still can be run heavy from the spread. Look at what Oregon does. Lot of misdirection and lot of running. But running in space.
Posted by CAT
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:46 am to
No to the spread. Nothing wrong with running the ball but my goodness do we have to line up with two TEs and run the ball up the middle to start every half of football and 90% of first downs. There is no creativity at all. Run the ball, play action, get TEs involved in the passing game, and mix in screens and a few WR bubble screens ala what Bowe used to do.
Posted by inthebr
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:47 am to
quote:

Ask Crowton



Crowton has been terrible everywhere he went.

If LSU got serviceable QB play and could keep the line healthy they'd be fine.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:48 am to
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Nothing wrong with running the ball but my goodness do we have to line up with two TEs and run the ball up the middle to start every half of football and 90% of first downs. There is no creativity at all. Run the ball, play action, get TEs involved in the passing game, and mix in screens and a few WR bubble screens ala what Bowe used to do.


that would be a move in the right direction but why not go all the way with what is working in todays football. It's what the pros do. It is what colleges do. It is what high schools do. I don't get what people have against a system that works in todays world.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:50 am to
I have some suggestions to improve offensive production.


Bring back
The notre dame box then we will have no reason to have a QB
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:51 am to
I prefer the pro style offense but I do agree that we need to recruit players that fit our style.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:52 am to
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No to the spread. Nothing wrong with running the ball

the "spread" includes the spread option, which is a lot of rushing the ball. do you think Auburn doesn't run enough?

Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:53 am to
With Jennings at QB. He's terrible
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:54 am to
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the pro style system is superior to the spread


based on what?? Even the pros don't run the so called this pro style anymore. Well I'll backtrack a little. It really is just a matter of semantics. Call it what you want. But the NFL is lining up a lot more in pistol and shotgun, multiple wideouts, passing to the backs, passing to the TE's. The NFL has become much more of a passing league. When they do run they like to get there backs in space. Opens up the run game. Still can be a run heavy team from the spread. Just spreads out the D so there Is room to run. Also don't have to have a mobile QB. Look at the Saints, Broncos, and Patriots. Lots of NFL teams without mobile QB's that use spread concepts.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 11:56 am
Posted by LSUwag
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:54 am to
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I prefer the pro style offense but I do agree that we need to recruit players that fit our style.


So do I but, we can't seem to find players capable of learning it for the most part.

I'll tell you one thing, what we're doing now isn't working.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:54 am to
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hat would be a move in the right direction but why not go all the way with what is working in todays football. It's what the pros do. It is what colleges do. It is what high schools do. I don't get what people have against a system that works in todays world.

i think we just need to modernize and run a single back rushing offense. use 3 WR sets and 2 TEs and ditch teh fullback

use lots of formations and run the same plays. that's the key to the air raid offense (which is really simple). supposedly our offense is very complex and hard for young QBs/WRs to learn (Whcih is mind blowing)

simplify the offense
go single back/pistol to open up our formations
run a more diverse rushing offense
use the new formations to run the plays from different formations

that's where football is moving. it doesn't have to be a HUNH offense or a super passing spread or anything
Posted by AjaxFury
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:56 am to
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I don't even remember when's the last time a WR WENT IN MOTION pre-snap.


True, though for some reason they are still lining up with :01 on the clock to snap it on on the 12th inside run in 13 plays
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17321 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:57 am to
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When they do run they like to get there backs in space. Opens up the run game.


This!

Put our talented athletes in open space and they will perform a lot better than running up the middle on every darn play.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16037 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:58 am to
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An elite defense will shutdown a spread offense (ie Oregon


you think Oregon would be more effective with the I formation offense. What would you call what Alabama runs now days?
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:59 am to
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n elite defense will shutdown a spread offense (ie Oregon

Elite defenses will shut down a pro style too.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17321 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:00 pm to
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Elite defenses will shut down a pro style too.



An average defense shut our asses out last night!
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