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Time to abolish the death penalty...
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:28 pm
1. Too expensive
2. Feeds in to an already death loving culture/society ('Merica)
3. Is not a deterrent to crime
4. Its victims are primarily the poor
5. Innocent people have been and will continue to be executed
2. Feeds in to an already death loving culture/society ('Merica)
3. Is not a deterrent to crime
4. Its victims are primarily the poor
5. Innocent people have been and will continue to be executed
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Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:31 pm to JazzyJeff
Name an innocent person who's been executed.
The death penalty hasn't really been tried. And yet some analysis still shows a deterrent effect.
The death penalty hasn't really been tried. And yet some analysis still shows a deterrent effect.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:31 pm to JazzyJeff
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:32 pm to JazzyJeff
Nah
We're gonna keep it.
We're gonna keep it.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:33 pm to JazzyJeff
I agree that, like many other things the govt does, the DP is good in principle but poorly executed (pun intended).
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:33 pm to JazzyJeff
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This post was edited on 10/3/20 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:34 pm to JazzyJeff
Tonight Texas killed a woman because she tortured and starved a 9 year old boy to death.
If it cost a little more to kill her versus feed and support her for the next 40 years, I'm ok with that.
If it cost a little more to kill her versus feed and support her for the next 40 years, I'm ok with that.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:40 pm to JazzyJeff
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2. Feeds in to an already death loving culture/society ('Merica)
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4. Its victims are primarily the poor
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:43 pm to JazzyJeff
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JazzyJeff
Just a local example.
Dig into the shite Derrick Todd Lee did to I think Charlotte Pace. The one that was located at Sharlo.
Something like 65 knife/screw driver punctures while she fought for her life.
You expect tax payers to pay for his jailing for 50 more years? Man frick that shite.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:10 pm to JazzyJeff
It should be used very rarely, but there are no doubt people who deserve to die. You're gonna ask, who determines that? I do.
Cases where guilt isn't even a question, Jeffery Dahmer(body parts in his freezer), John Wayne Gacy(29 bodies buried in his basement), and other notable examples. These are the types of cases where the DP should be used.
Cases where guilt isn't even a question, Jeffery Dahmer(body parts in his freezer), John Wayne Gacy(29 bodies buried in his basement), and other notable examples. These are the types of cases where the DP should be used.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:19 pm to JazzyJeff
It's the Christian principles the country was founded no that really supports the death penalty.
Jesus said "Fry the frickers."
Jesus said "Fry the frickers."
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:21 pm to JazzyJeff
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Too expensive
Rope isn't that expensive, and tree's are free.
Heck the hippy liberals would love it because we could recycle that rope multiple times and have a green death penalty.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:47 pm to JazzyJeff
In order to teach what is right, you have to do what is right. If killing is wrong then the death sentence is wrong too.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 12:01 am to JazzyJeff
#5 is your only legitimate gripe
Posted on 9/18/14 at 5:50 am to JazzyJeff
quote:then speed up the process I say. If DNA evidence is present, then execute immediately.
1. Too expensive
Posted on 9/18/14 at 6:25 am to JazzyJeff
Wrong.
1) commute sentences to life for all persons on death row convicted without any actual physical evidence, or without a non-coerced confession, or without the testimony of at least three (3) eyewitnesses (or unambiguous video evidence);
2) anyone else, or anyone convicted based on DNA evidence, is put to front of the line and given one appeal to be taken within 2 years of conviction;
3) executions can (and should) be public, using any means that was legal in the USA or England in 1791, and any method less "cruel AND unusual."
1) commute sentences to life for all persons on death row convicted without any actual physical evidence, or without a non-coerced confession, or without the testimony of at least three (3) eyewitnesses (or unambiguous video evidence);
2) anyone else, or anyone convicted based on DNA evidence, is put to front of the line and given one appeal to be taken within 2 years of conviction;
3) executions can (and should) be public, using any means that was legal in the USA or England in 1791, and any method less "cruel AND unusual."
This post was edited on 9/18/14 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 9/18/14 at 6:38 am to JazzyJeff
quote:
1. Too expensive
2. Feeds in to an already death loving culture/society ('Merica)
3. Is not a deterrent to crime
4. Its victims are primarily the poor
5. Innocent people have been and will continue to be executed
1 - have portable gallows; they're reusable
2 - nope; to take a life, you forfeit your's
3 - yes it is; no person that has been executed in the U.S. have committed anymore crimes.
4 - no; it's "victims" are criminals
5 - provide proof
Posted on 9/18/14 at 8:09 am to JazzyJeff
I'll add one, and I say this as someone who has had a family member murdered and the killer was executed. For me and my family, it didn't give us any closure or sense of justice. Our family member was still just as dead and just as gone. We thought there would be this huge relief once the killer was executed, but it actually made some of us feel worse.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 8:24 am to JazzyJeff
The only problem with the death penalty is it takes too long to administer. Convicts sit in prison for years if not decades on taxpayer dime before justice is fully served.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 8:25 am to JazzyJeff
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2. Feeds in to an already death loving culture/society ('Merica)
what?
oh...thats right. you hate America
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4. Its victims are primarily the poor
what the frick does this have to do with anything?
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5. Innocent people have been and will continue to be executed
and guilty people have been and will continue to walk free
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