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re: The rise of the DIY abortion in Texas
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:33 pm to BuckyBadger
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:33 pm to BuckyBadger
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but a two week old zygote isn't a human being.
That is a matter of opinion.
What is not opinion is that it is human life. Some people value life and strive to protect it.
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:43 pm to Homesick Tiger
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Getting pregnant is a personal choice. Why should I have to subsidize a mistake you and your gf make?
Not that I necessarily agree with subsidized BC, but this is a TERRIBLE argument. Obesity, alcohol use and smoking are all personal choices and you subsidize the frick out of them.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:45 pm to TN Bhoy
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The MAP is an abortion
No it isn't. Labeling it an "abortion pill" was a scare tactic by southern evangelicals and catholics.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:51 pm to Revelator
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So to you, what matters as far as moral issues is what's legal? So conversely, what's illegal would be immoral.
I didn't realize that politicians had so much power as to make things moral and immoral with the stroke of a pen?
Human history shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that morality is defined not by universal absolutes but by the society which is being discussed.
There is very little symmetry between societies through history regarding morality, even those that existed in similar time periods. While the Europeans had firmly established human sacrifice as immoral, many native American groups saw it as the highest honor one could receive to be sacrificed to the Gods.
Morality is what a given group of individuals say it is.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:45 pm to Roger Klarvin
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While the Europeans had firmly established human sacrifice as immoral, many native American groups saw it as the highest honor one could receive to be sacrificed to the Gods
And how are those groups doing today? Does the morality chosen by a given group allow it to prosper more than others and, thereby indicate the more correct moral code?
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 9/1/14 at 10:46 pm to Jake88
quote:Chile, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Honduras and the Dominican Republic are five of only seven countries worldwide to prohibit abortion under any circumstances. This includes victims of rape or women whose lives are at risk.
And how are those groups doing today? Does the morality chosen by a given group allow it to prosper more than others and, thereby indicate the more correct moral code?
Yet they are far from prospering. Weird.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 11:15 pm to Jake88
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And how are those groups doing today? Does the morality chosen by a given group allow it to prosper more than others and, thereby indicate the more correct moral code?
Prosperity and Morality don't go hand and hand.
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indicate the more correct moral code
The only code that will always continue to exist is Might makes right.
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those who are the strongest will rule others and have the power to determine right and wrong
Posted on 9/1/14 at 11:18 pm to Socratics
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The only code that will always continue to exist is Might makes right.
That's what I'm saying.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 11:38 pm to Roger Klarvin
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There is very little symmetry between societies through history regarding morality, even those that existed in similar time periods. While the Europeans had firmly established human sacrifice as immoral, many native American groups saw it as the highest honor one could receive to be sacrificed to the Gods.
I'll go a step further. At the same time those natives were practicing human sacrifice, Europeans, who found the idea aborrent, were burning people at the stake for practicing the "wrong" flavor of Christianity. I don't see much of a distinction.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 11:42 pm to Jake88
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And how are those groups doing today?
Both types of societies have died out. Your mistake is assuming that simply because Spain, England and France still exist that the 16th-19th century societies in question are still thriving.
Besides, the Native Americans' way of life was ended by actions that are almost universally considered immoral in the West today. Your post is a big face-palm all the way around.
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Does the morality chosen by a given group allow it to prosper more than others and, thereby indicate the more correct moral code?
The Roman Empire was one of if not the most successful empire in history. At one point in history one-third of the globe's population lived and died under its rule. Their society would be considered incredibly immoral by your modern western standards.
Meanwhile, of the world's ten poorest countries five have banned all forms of abortion and eight are more Christian as a percentage of the population than America.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 9/1/14 at 11:55 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Besides, the Native Americans' way of life was ended by actions that are almost universally considered immoral in the West today. Your post is a big face-palm all the way around.
No facepalm, I was asking a question, not making a point.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:00 am to Jake88
Your implication was clear, and wrong. No need to play dumb, it's obvious to everyone.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:08 am to Roger Klarvin
If you don't think I recognized what happened to the Native Americans as I posted that, I don't care. They were overtaken by might. But why the discrepancy in might? The second question stands. Can a moral code's correctness be based on success of a society?
Posted on 9/2/14 at 11:31 am to Jake88
The answer is no, obviously.
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