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The rise of the DIY abortion in Texas

Posted on 8/30/14 at 6:29 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98186 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 6:29 am
No clinic? No problem. You can get the necessary drugs at a flea market. LINK
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57313 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 7:04 am to
Should be murder
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 7:45 am to
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Should be murder


It will be soon, or at least a major crime. Just wait till one of these moron bleeds out or some shite like that from the drug.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81704 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 7:49 am to
I don't understand why we can't just subsidize morning after pills. make them free for anyone with an ID. think of the money would save (not to mention the abortions).
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 7:59 am to
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I don't understand why we can't just subsidize morning after pills.


Getting pregnant is a personal choice. Why should I have to subsidize a mistake you and your gf make? I'd be more inclined to help pay for some type medication you might need for a "situation" you had no control over.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8156 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 8:06 am to
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Getting pregnant is a personal choice. Why should I have to subsidize a mistake you and your gf make?


So is being morbidly obese, and we're already subsidizing the hell out of that.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34911 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 8:24 am to
Very informative. And a can of worms for sure.

Respect for life - all forms (fetus included) - would seem to be directly related to respect for an individuals personal sovereignty. The Pro-choice principle.

The idea that a fetus IS a human being, with sovereign Lawful Rights is key.

I suspect that if women would organize, and sue the State/people that FORCES upon them an unwanted pregnancy...for the labor of child-bearing, and further inform the State/people that the costs of child-rearing will be upon them via the 'it's your baby you rock it' adage...then attitudes are likely to change. As the money begins to flow out of the State/people's pockets.

Respect for Life...or even respect for God (as the Source of Life)...CAN NOT BE COERCED. And that is why there will NEVER be either a proof of God, or a proof of 'hell' (coercion). Respect must come from Vision; and Vision is learned. Over time.

Earth 2014.

Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81704 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 8:32 am to
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Getting pregnant is a personal choice. Why should I have to subsidize a mistake you and your gf make? I'd be more inclined to help pay for some type medication you might need for a "situation" you had no control over.



Id much rather have my tax dollars going for a relatively inexpensive pill than towards a kid who may need subsidization his/her entire life.
This post was edited on 8/30/14 at 8:34 am
Posted by Al Dante
Member since Mar 2013
1859 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 8:35 am to
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We should all want to pay to subsidize morning after pills b/c they'd more than pay for themselves in the money they'd save down the line.


So does the death penalty.
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
81704 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 8:41 am to
I'm pro death penalty once DNA has been verified, but I am pretty sure I've read that all the appeals actually drive up the cost and make it somewhat prohibitive. Plus the governors of the state in question usually reviews things, weighs delays, etc. What do you value an hour of a Governor's time as being worth - $50,000 or so? That's pretty prohibitive.
This post was edited on 8/30/14 at 8:42 am
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23484 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 8:44 am to
Good as it should be
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 9:33 am to
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Id much rather have my tax dollars going for a relatively inexpensive pill than towards a kid who may need subsidization his/her entire life.


Why would you be dumb enough to assume the kids would be welfare kids? Actually the ones going buy the pills are probably more capable of financially raising the kid. The welfare lifers don't give enough of a frick to care. They actually want the bbay for a bigger check and tax scam.
I personally know someone who was begged out of an abortion. She was scared to death and. nothinking clearly. Now hte kid is a straight A student at the amot prestigious private school.in New Orleans. So much for your myopic theory
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 9:35 am to
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I don't understand why we can't just subsidize morning after pills. make them free for anyone with an ID. think of the money would save (not to mention the abortions).



The MAP is an abortion
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 9:49 am to
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Id much rather have my tax dollars going


I got a sneaky feeling you take more than you give in taxes.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34911 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 9:54 am to
Run the stats, G; if you can find the real thing.

BTW, it seems that an unwanted pregnancy is indicative of either an ignorant or irresponsible individual, or either one that just had a temporary slip. I suspect the latter would be a low number in the stats. And the former to be high on the list, and whose offspring would likely reflect that of their parent.

You can find extraordinary anomalies all the time. Check out our rising champion, Leonard Fournette, he is the epitome of a statistical anomaly. And a welcome one! (If you missed the PBS story on him...run it down. You'll be glad.)

Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 10:20 am to
It's just dumb for anyone to act like only poor people are screwing. DO you really think the welfare class will be responsible enough to take the pill if offered? That's naive.

If they can be smart enough to take a pill afterwards, please explain why they aren't responsible enough to put on a rubber BEFORE! Or any other contraceptive BEFORE.

It's just dumb thinking after would be as effective as before.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 11:11 am to
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I personally know someone who was begged out of an abortion. She was scared to death and. nothinking clearly. Now hte kid is a straight A student at the amot prestigious private school.in New Orleans. So much for your myopic theory




Seriously? Anecdotes are neat.

But do any of you guys believe in math? Math is pretty easy, right? What is cheaper? The morning after pill, or 18-78 years of welfare?

You don't believe in abortion? Fine. Is it going away? No. No. No. It is never going to go away. To think so is BEYOND obtuse. It's one of those stupid fricking fringe issues that COST REPUBLICANS ELECTIONS. Jesus Christ. Move the frick on. It's over.

But how about making the best of a bad situation? Worried about the fricking budget deficit? Well, I don't know, how about encouraging the admittedly too irresponsible to take the morning after pill? Or are we assuming that by some miracle people will stop being irresponsible? Is that the plan? Take away any option you don't agree with, then no one will do it any more? Even when federally legal?

I can't understand the stupidity of some of you guys' arguments and the lack of consistency when trying to reconcile anyone's beliefs on fiscal conservatism with the ridiculous fairy tale belief that somehow, someway we WON'T end up subsidizing the vast majority of these unwanted pregnancies.

Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 11:11 am to
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If they can be smart enough to take a pill afterwards, please explain why they aren't responsible enough to put on a rubber BEFORE! Or any other contraceptive BEFORE.


Do condoms break? Is the pill 100% effective?
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81704 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 11:14 am to
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If they can be smart enough to take a pill afterwards, please explain why they aren't responsible enough to put on a rubber BEFORE! Or any other contraceptive BEFORE.


I have a graduate degree, make pretty good money, and if the chick seems clean and smells nice during my exploratory face dive then I don't tend to wear condoms. So I can hardly blame somebody who has way less going for them than I do for erring on the side of pleasure.
This post was edited on 8/30/14 at 11:15 am
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81704 posts
Posted on 8/30/14 at 11:16 am to
The irony is that all of these pro life republicans are all up in arms about the little future Democrat / welfare fetuses being aborted.

"NOOOO! SAVE THESE FETUSES WHO IF BORN WILL GROW UP TO BECOME THE BANE OF MY EXISTANCE! WHERES MY BLOODY FETUS SIGN?!?"
This post was edited on 8/30/14 at 11:18 am
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