- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Sleeping Giant schools in College Football.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:05 am to LooseCannon22282
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:05 am to LooseCannon22282
Nebraska
Great tradition
Good facilities
Great fan base
With the new divisions they should be in contention for a spot in the Big Ten title game almost every year.
If the Huskers can get over the hump and make it to a few Rose Bowls and win them it could really bring that program to the next level and have them competing for a playoff spot.
Great tradition
Good facilities
Great fan base
With the new divisions they should be in contention for a spot in the Big Ten title game almost every year.
If the Huskers can get over the hump and make it to a few Rose Bowls and win them it could really bring that program to the next level and have them competing for a playoff spot.
1
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:14 am to ForkEmDemons
As an outsider looking in I don't think Nebraska is as likely to rise up to the level of a tOSU, USC, FSU, Miami, OU type program again. They are one of the greatest programs in college football history but they have no home grown recruiting grounds, no longer play Texas teams multiple times a year to help their recruiting.
It is just a harder sell for them trying to recruit Texas now and they are at a geographic disadvantage trying to bring in Big 10 kids from Illinois or Ohio compared to the other closer schools from the same conference.
They are in a worse position than Tennessee IMO. At least there is some football talent in Tennessee
It is just a harder sell for them trying to recruit Texas now and they are at a geographic disadvantage trying to bring in Big 10 kids from Illinois or Ohio compared to the other closer schools from the same conference.
They are in a worse position than Tennessee IMO. At least there is some football talent in Tennessee
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:37 am to molsusports
I think they can and I believe if they can get over the hump then they will start getting more and more recruits from recruiting hot beads. Winning cures a lot of things.
They were extremely close during their last two years in the BIG XII to making it back to BCS bowls.
They were extremely close during their last two years in the BIG XII to making it back to BCS bowls.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:53 am to ForkEmDemons
With the fact that everyone is on TV these days.
It's all about recruiting fertile ground.
Name pull matters little - it's all about the coach in non-fertile grounds.
Notre Dame, Michigan...need name studs.
More so...Nebraska.
It's not s revelation that Stanford became relevant...they have access to California.
The only real sleeping giant...especially now that they have joined the SEC...and UT has faltered...is TAMU.
They've never had a better opportunity.
Nebraska, Michigan (steals from Ohio), Notre Dame (traditional national recruiting because - they were always on TV) need help...in the form of a great coach.
It comes down to coaches' pull now...and it has been that way for 20 years...the days of kids just going to a program b/c of the program are over.
Alabama's and USC's wanderings in the desert are proof of that...before Saban and Carroll.
Some schools have that built in advantage...LSU, Florida, Texas...USC...and other Cali schools (but everyone on the WC recruits from Cali.
Nebraska may never happen again...but they can happen again with the great coach.
It's all about recruiting fertile ground.
Name pull matters little - it's all about the coach in non-fertile grounds.
Notre Dame, Michigan...need name studs.
More so...Nebraska.
It's not s revelation that Stanford became relevant...they have access to California.
The only real sleeping giant...especially now that they have joined the SEC...and UT has faltered...is TAMU.
They've never had a better opportunity.
Nebraska, Michigan (steals from Ohio), Notre Dame (traditional national recruiting because - they were always on TV) need help...in the form of a great coach.
It comes down to coaches' pull now...and it has been that way for 20 years...the days of kids just going to a program b/c of the program are over.
Alabama's and USC's wanderings in the desert are proof of that...before Saban and Carroll.
Some schools have that built in advantage...LSU, Florida, Texas...USC...and other Cali schools (but everyone on the WC recruits from Cali.
Nebraska may never happen again...but they can happen again with the great coach.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 3:14 am to Zamoro10
Pelini isn't a great coach at this point but I find he has improved as a coach. This year will be very telling as to if he can be the right person to get Nebraska over the hump. Schedule is set up for the Huskers to have a good year.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 9:00 am to forksup
quote:
3) then had a staccato of victorious seasons (I think ASU and UCLA are here)
4) before finally breaking through to become winning programs again (I think MSU is here, we'll see after this season)
You're questioning Michigan State, but so sure about Arizona State's return?
You do realize that Dantonio has three 11+ winning seasons in the past four years, right?
Posted on 8/24/14 at 9:05 am to sms151t
quote:
Minnesota due to resources and beginning to start winning again
They beat an average Nebraska team last season and have lost to every team with a pulse for awhile now. They're winning more than two games, but I would absolutely make note of who they've actually been beating.
Very nice stadium they have in Minneapolis, but they simply need to start winning. Minnesota has not won a conference championship since the middle of the Vietnam War.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 9:22 am to hoopsgalore
IMO there were the best team last season.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 9:43 am to Sevendust912
Pretty much every school in the ACC. I mean, ACC is likely to survive realignment and has ease of access to the Playoff, which is important to sustained success. And really, outside of FSU and maybe Clemson, there are no top tier programs in the ACC. Someone is eventually going to "wake up" and be the primary rival to FSU.
I'd lean towards a big public school with access to fertile recruiting and not much instate competition (NCSU and UNC sort of cancel each other out).
I'm saying Syracuse. They have been a lot better, and should be again.
I'd lean towards a big public school with access to fertile recruiting and not much instate competition (NCSU and UNC sort of cancel each other out).
I'm saying Syracuse. They have been a lot better, and should be again.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 10:38 am to forksup
BYU I think is also a sleeping giant, although they have had nine straight winning seasons. But the Mormon population is only going to continue to expand across the country, and that community seems to have the same type of cohesion that Catholics once had, which made Notre Dame so powerful.
At some point BYU is going to kick it up a notch, and if the PAC-12 expands again, I would try to angle my way into that conference if I were them.
At some point BYU is going to kick it up a notch, and if the PAC-12 expands again, I would try to angle my way into that conference if I were them.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 11:19 am to nvasil1
quote:
They should own Chicago in recruiting top talent, but they can't even attract players to get bowl eligible. Problem is, no one in their fan base seems to care.
People seem to assume that these landgrant state schools should own the urban areas of their states for recruiting, but there's really no reason they should. For most, that will go in cycles and it requires laborious recruiting and relationship building. LSU pays its NOLA recruiter a million a year (or close to it) for a reason. These kids aren't born LSU fans like the kids in the rural areas.
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 11:25 am
Posted on 8/24/14 at 11:47 am to WeeWee
quote:
Tulane. Private school in NOLA they will dominate the AAC and the nonpowerfive division of CFB in a few years
Well, if the AAC gets its way, it's the Power 6!
Regarding Tech and the Rajins, the only real limit I see on these 2 is financing. Both will have to switch their financing from general fund transfers to student fees in the next few years; Tech has less than 10K undergraduates; ULL has a lot more, but still not the 25-30K students you need for a good student fee finance.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 1:04 pm to bherm1988
Again, Maryland.
Schools in states with shitty talent like Colorado are not it.
Schools in states with shitty talent like Colorado are not it.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 4:13 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
Obvious answer is USF.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 4:20 pm to molsusports
quote:
They are in a worse position than Tennessee IMO. At least there is some football talent in Tennessee
Tennessee's got something that 110 or however many so football teams don't have...these three small, but so powerful letters sewn on their jersey.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 4:29 pm to 12Pence
Nebraska being a power was gone,When they went to Big10, that was the end.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 4:53 pm to hoopsgalore
I'm just wondering if they're set in stone to be a consistently winning program. I have nothing against MSU and I actually like them as my buddy at ASU was an ASU/MSU fanatic. Boise's had a decade of success now (10-14 win seasons) but they're showing chinks in their armor. With Chris Peterson out and BSU being in a very average conference, I wouldn't be surprised to see them fall apart entirely. MSU is in an entirely different situation though, but just because they've had three 11 win seasons doesn't cement anything in my opinion. I think 5 good years is the start of some solid stuff.
And I don't think "I think ASU and UCLA are here" means "so sure about Arizona State's return". They're POSSIBLY in the third stage of what I wrote up. ASU and UCLA are still at least 8-10 years from being in stage 4 IF they are actually in stage 3.
And I don't think "I think ASU and UCLA are here" means "so sure about Arizona State's return". They're POSSIBLY in the third stage of what I wrote up. ASU and UCLA are still at least 8-10 years from being in stage 4 IF they are actually in stage 3.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 4:54 pm to stlslick
I had actually forgotten about Nebraska and their move to the Big 10 until that one ugly uniform thread. How the mighty have fallen...
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:02 pm to maine82
I heard the only problem with BYU concerning absorption into the Pac-12 is the religious aspect. They won't play on Sundays (this goes into other sports) and their ideology doesn't mesh with the liberal spirit across the Pac-12. Don't really know how much, if any, is true. Everything else seems peachy about them? Academics (research institution), large market, sensible location.
I wonder how successful they'd be in the Pac-12 though... Utah is slowly inching its way back. Colorado is friggin' terrible. Just way too many teams on the rise at once for the newcomers to break through.
I wonder how successful they'd be in the Pac-12 though... Utah is slowly inching its way back. Colorado is friggin' terrible. Just way too many teams on the rise at once for the newcomers to break through.
Page 6 of 7
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News