re: Would you trade Brees for Luck?

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clhstrojans

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It seems you have a bit to learn about the salary cap.

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In his prime and about to be making prime time money next year. He can restructure all he wants but between his and Jimmy's salary the Saints won't be able to afford to keep everyone.


I'm sure he'll restructure, but it won't be a ton. His cap hit will still be huge for the next few years. No matter how much he restructures it will be much more than Luck for the next couple years which is the point I was trying to make.

I'd rather Andrew Luck (who's already a very good QB with all signs pointing to being a great QB) and the cap space his contract allows than an aging Drew Brees with a contract that's what 20% of your cap.

Still going to be saying that if Saints don't win the Superbowl this year? Then in 2015 and 2016 he's making 26 & 27 million dollars and the Saints have to fill holes with backups and green rookies because there's not enough cap room?

Plus throw in the 15 million dollars less that Luck is making. Which would allow you to bring in a couple more stud players. (Luck + a franchise LT anyone?, Luck + a franchise LT and a stud LB?)

Cap Hit 2014
- Luck 6 Million
- Brees 18 Million

Cap Hit 2015
- Luck 7 Million
- Brees 26 Million

Yay, we brought in sick free agents Lewis and Byrd. Guess there's a new rule where you can only bring in one stud free agent a year or something?

With 10+ million more to spend each of the next few years you can bring in more than just a Jarius Byrd every season.

Then after the next few seasons Luck is going to get paid, but it won't be Brees money unless he would have won a Superbowl here. If that's the case then this scenario is a win.

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This team is one of the best(if not the best) at signing quality depth through later picks. The cap is increasing dramatically by the year. Brees' contract is looking like a bargain these days compared to Flacco/Ryan/Dalton etc. Luck will want an extension in that range soon.

They already have their future at LT and he's on a rookie deal. I'm not sure where you've been.

The team will do much of the same next year. Cut underpreforming guys and put young ones that have a year+ experience like they've been doing.

They've proven time and time again they're able to get quality depth through multiple areas.

This is a team that has very few holes and will likely keep the majority of their guys.

I'm not sure you realize how much depth this team has.

ETA: Just had to call out those posts. Some our fans are misinformed. Carry on.

If so, only because of the age difference.

I refuse to even answer the question! What you are asking is a sacrilege, and you should have your Saints fan card revoked IMMEDIATELY! That is of course if you even had one in the first place.

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The cap is increasing dramatically by the year.

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That's nice, so are player salaries so it's all relative.

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Brees' contract is looking like a bargain these days compared to Flacco/Ryan/Dalton etc.

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Just because shitty organizations overpaid and crippled themselves for the future doesn't mean Bree's making 26 & 27 million dollars at age 36-37 is better than Luck making less and being younger.

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Luck will want an extension in that range soon.

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He sure will be, but you have him on the cheap for this year and next. Then after that he'll be making Brees money or a little better, but hey that salary cap rises like you were so nice to point out . Oh and he'll be 26-27 and entering his prime.

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They already have their future at LT and he's on a rookie deal. I'm not sure where you've been.

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Sorry I'll wait till the guy has started more than 2 meaningful games before I anoint the kid, but I certainly hope he is, cause with Brees contract you certainly won't be going out and getting a top free agent LT if he isn't. You'll end up with a cheap over the hill vet or a young unproven guy you drafted protecting Drew's arse his last few years.


With the season here I'm not going to waste my time arguing over this hypothetical scenario anymore, and you guys shouldn't either. I thought this thread was dead weeks ago. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the next couple seasons which should be great.

I bookmarked this thread though. I'll bump it in 2016 & 2017 when Luck is a MVP candidate, and the Saints aren't able to pay to keep all the weapons around an aging Drew. Or if I'm wrong I'll bump it to say you guys were right. I have no problem eating crow especially if it means the Saints are in better shape than I expect they will be.

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Indfanfromcol

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Honest two question:

Have you ever watched football or paid attention to how big contracts are handled?

How much Madden franchise mode do you play?

You're literally to stupid to have a conversation with.

Trade away Drew Brees, HoF, GOAT, superbowl winning, field general, Savior of the Franchise, greatest player to ever put on the black and Gold, who still has years of high caliber performance left in him with a nice new crop of young receivers and a better online for Luck because he's younger?

frick you.

Good Lord you took that personal. And to answer your question, no I have never watched a single game of football.

Listen, your GM is doing what I wish ours would. Backload contracts and wait for the cap to go up. It's a risky game because there is no telling what the nfl will put it at, but so far Loomis has been on point.

But if you stopped giving Brees a bj for a second, you'd see that football is a business and a team sport. Breesus will retire a Saint and never be traded, but seeing Yalls nfc all star team now, it's a scary thought to see what Loomis would do with all that extra cap.

That's a good breakdown, but i'd be extremely shocked if he took that low of a number for an extension. With the cap space suppose to be rising and Brees probably continuing to play at such a high level, I'd expect the extension to be for an extra 3 years backloaded, with it averaging around 20 million.

Which with the way an contracts are now would still be a pay cut from what he deserves. That is just my opinion though. Breesus agent doesn't seem like the kind of agent who will tell his players to take a huge pay cut.

Yes at this point in their careers. shite, Indy threw Manning out with the bath water to bring in Luck to start as a rookie.

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Would you trade Brees for Luck?

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Hell no. Not even Manning or Brady. Rodgers would give me pause though