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re: Should Poor people have "Less Vote" than Rich people?

Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:37 pm to
Yeah. It's a fairly ridiculous position.

But it does make sense to me that if someone can (in effect) vote more taxes for "that dude over there" then everyone's goes up.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:37 pm to
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Should Poor people have "Less Vote" than Rich people?


Should poor people have less rights than rich people?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:37 pm to
I support abolishing the income tax so for all intents and purposes most of these people would not be paying any taxes anyway.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:38 pm to
Yeah! And all the non-landowners can count as 3/5 of a person towards representation. This is a brilliant idea that's never been considered or tried before.

I swear nobody on this board ever took a US History class.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:38 pm to
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We're talking voting rights here. Not census methods.


I've heard about people like you.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:39 pm to
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I support abolishing the income tax so for all intents and purposes most of these people would not be paying any taxes anyway.



But they would still be paying property taxes, road taxes, sales taxes, you fricking idiot
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

Yeah! And all the non-landowners can count as 3/5 of a person towards representation. This is a brilliant idea that's never been considered or tried before. I swear nobody on this board ever took a US History class.


You don't think the constitution was perfect as ratified in 1789?

Are you a progressive or something?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:39 pm to
My work here is done.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:40 pm to
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Should poor people have less rights than rich people?




Yes. Poors should be processed into food for other poors, like I said.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:40 pm to
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Should poor people have less rights than rich people?


No. They should be equal. And pay equal taxes. Wait. Something else. Equal in other ways. If we take a lot of the rich dude's money and give it to the poor dude, then it'll be more fairer. Or something.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:41 pm to
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My work here is done.

Espousing idiocy isn't work. It's very, very easy and is accomplished by millions of idiots in all nooks and crannies of the internet even as we speak.
Posted by Crow Pie
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:41 pm to
In this scenario a person earning $125K, with a adj income of $108K that paid $15K in tax would get 51 "votes"

This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:42 pm to
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Yes. Poors should be processed into food for other poors, like I said.


Wouldn't that give them mad cow disease or something.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:43 pm to
I want to apologize to the posters in this thread for bringing my personal life in here. Sometimes I feel some of your views aren't based in reality. I wonder if some of these stances would be so hard line if it involved a family member or if you would put old or sick people out. I mentioned my situation to put somewhat of a face on the issue. Also maybe to get unbias feedback concerning difficult decisions ahead. Again thank you and I'm sorry
Posted by Crow Pie
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:44 pm to
In this scenario a person earning $41K with adj net income of $38K that paid $2K in taxes would get 13 "votes"

Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:44 pm to
The surest sign of a feeble mind is thd need to resort to insults the moment your confronted with a conflicting view from your own.

I posted that first statement of mind for the sole purpose of seeing how people would react when confronted with a real view of how things actually were at the founding of our republic. And your reaction was typical and expected. You reacted with ignorance and vitriol. You've been trolled and you're too stupid to realize it.
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 1:46 pm
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:44 pm to
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First option sounds a lot like taxation without representation to me.


It absolutely is, which is what I was getting at. I resisted calling him King George

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Darth_Vader


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I support abolishing the income tax so for all intents and purposes most of these people would not be paying any taxes anyway.


If voting strictly on property ownership, then you'd have to eliminate taxes of every other sort for anyone who didn't own property.

You are now faced with putting the nation's entire financial burden solely on land owning citizens versus taxation without representation (if you abolish income tax only).

I can appreciate a different point of view as it pertains to our tax/voting issues and solutions provided to fix those issues...but either way your method isn't feasible.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:44 pm to
My favorite Econ professor at Mizzou had a similar proposal.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26099 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:44 pm to
Yeah, but I'm the type with the mental disorder known as white guilt, not the low IQ kind.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:45 pm to
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In this scenarios a person earning $125K, with a adj income of $108K that paid $15K in tax would get 51 "votes"


What are you going to do when you realize that along that voting chart you'll have rights one hell of a lot more akin to a snaggle-tooth crackwhore than you do with a multimillionaire?

Billionaires? Pfft. They might pass some amendments to make all the women in La. concubines.
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