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re: 35 Practical Steps Men Can Take To Support Feminism
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:56 am to KosmoCramer
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:56 am to KosmoCramer
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Not the whole be subordinate to woman aspect per se, but this is actually a really good idea and probably extremely beneficial.
If you want to survive in the corporate world, which is increasingly becoming feminized, I would agree.
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:59 am to GRTiger
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:59 am to GRTiger
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10. Have progressive name politics. If you and your female partner decide that the institution of marriage is something you want to be involved with, be willing to both keep your existing surnames. If having a common surname with your spouse is important to you, be willing to change your surname and treat this as a preferable option to your spouse changing hers.
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34. Get in the habit of treating your maleness as an unearned privilege that you have to actively work to cede rather than femaleness being an unearned disadvantage that women have to work to overcome.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:00 am to kuhlman187
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will NEVER take feminism seriously until they fight to be included in the selective service draft, and when the courts stop guaranteeing women majority custody and alimony.
Good news, the vast majority of feminist groups either oppose selective service for all people or support the inclusion of women. In fact, it's a major talking point for the Service Women's Action Network, a feminist group advocating for women in the military. Here's an article written by SWAN legal director Rachel Natelson on the subject.
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Also, custody courts are not slanted toward women, they are slanted toward the primary caregiver in a marriage. In cases where the woman works and the man is a stay at home dad, the courts are equally slanted in favor of the man in that situation.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:03 am to GoGeauxGaux
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Good news, the vast majority of feminist groups either oppose selective service for all people or support the inclusion of women. In fact, it's a major talking point for the Service Women's Action Network, a feminist group advocating for women in the military. Here's an article written by SWAN legal director Rachel Natelson on the subject.
That's great. Pretty easy to take that position when there is no draft.
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Also, custody courts are not slanted toward women, they are slanted toward the primary caregiver in a marriage. In cases where the woman works and the man is a stay at home dad, the courts are equally slanted in favor of the man in that situation.
Not really.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:04 am to GoGeauxGaux
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Also, custody courts are not slanted toward women, they are slanted toward the primary caregiver in a marriage. In cases where the woman works and the man is a stay at home dad, the courts are equally slanted in favor of the man in that situation.
And this is fricking laughable.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:05 am to KosmoCramer
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Not the whole be subordinate to woman aspect per se, but this is actually a really good idea and probably extremely beneficial.
Anyone who has a problem with number 26, or any of these talking points really, is purposefully trying to misinterpret them to mean something that they don't. Okay, so it says "Be subordinate to women", but it's very clear from the context that this doesn't mean be subordinate to all women in all things. It just means that if you want to do something practical to support feminism, one practical step you might take is to find female mentors for yourself. You might benefit from it, and you'll serve as an example to others.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:06 am to GoGeauxGaux
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Also, custody courts are not slanted toward women, they are slanted toward the primary caregiver in a marriage. In cases where the woman works and the man is a stay at home dad, the courts are equally slanted in favor of the man in that situation.
BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLShit
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:06 am to GRTiger
This article makes it seem like supporting feminism is a lot like letting women win at things because it's cute when she thinks she earned something.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:06 am to GoGeauxGaux
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Anyone who has a problem with number 26, or any of these talking points really, is purposefully trying to misinterpret them to mean something that they don't.
bullshite.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:07 am to GoGeauxGaux
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or any of these talking points really, is purposefully trying to misinterpret them to mean something that they don't
And BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLShit also.
There's a few good ones (#4 is a good one, same with finding female mentors as well). But there's plenty of straight up asinine ones. The 77% stat, men pay 100% for birth control, donating 23% of your salary to some bullshite feminism cause, etc.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 11:14 am
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:08 am to GoGeauxGaux
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Anyone who has a problem with number 26, or any of these talking points really, is purposefully trying to misinterpret them to mean something that they don't.
I'm gonna call bullshite on this.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:08 am to Mo Jeaux
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That's great. Pretty easy to take that position when there is no draft.
So what the frick do you want? To start a draft just to make it more meaningful? Don't be stupid. He said he wanted to see a feminist group arguing to be included in selective service, and I showed him a group doing just that.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:09 am to GRTiger
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Do 50% (or more) of emotional support work in your intimate relationships and friendships.
They shouldn't bitch about carrying the baggage they bring.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:09 am to GoGeauxGaux
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Anyone who has a problem with number 26, or any of these talking points really, is purposefully trying to misinterpret them to mean something that they don't.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:10 am to GRTiger
Quite a few men here have already grown vaginas so they're ahead ofthe curve
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:11 am to GoGeauxGaux
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So what the frick do you want?
No more bullshite arguments with respect to feminism. But that's a lot to ask, apparently.
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To start a draft just to make it more meaningful?
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Don't be stupid.
You provided very good advice for yourself. I would recommend you follow it.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:12 am to GRTiger
Every man should consider reading "Letters to Philip On How to Treat a Woman."
It defines gender roles really well in a way that's respectful to women and not so radically feminist.
Just a neat suggestion. Your SOs would appreciate your application of what you read in that book.
It defines gender roles really well in a way that's respectful to women and not so radically feminist.
Just a neat suggestion. Your SOs would appreciate your application of what you read in that book.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:12 am to GRTiger
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33. Walk the walk about income inequality.
Women still earn about 77% as much as men. If you are in a position where you are financially able to do so, consider donating a symbolic 23% of your income to social justice-oriented causes. If 23% sounds like a lot to you, that’s because it is a lot and it’s also a lot for women who don’t have a choice whether to forfeit this amount or not.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:12 am to tylercsbn9
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There's a few good ones (#4 is a good one, same with finding female montors as well). But there's plenty of straight up asinine ones. The 77% stat, men pay 100% for birth control, etc.
If you don't want to donate your income then don't do it. Or if you want to donate a smaller amount, then do that. The author isn't trying to force anyone to do anything. You all are acting like she's trying to legislate that you HAVE to give 23% of your paycheck directly to NOW or something. It's just a talking point, not an order, but everyone is intentionally overreacting.
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