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Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:27 pm to udtiger
From your link, quoting Biden....
Poor Joe....open mouth, insert foot.
quote:
"I am very optimistic about -- about Iraq. I mean, this could be one of the great achievements of this administration. You're going to see 90,000 American troops come marching home by the end of the summer. You're going to see a stable government in Iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government," said Biden.
"I spent -- I've been there 17 times now. I go about every two months -- three months. I know every one of the major players in all of the segments of that society. It's impressed me. I've been impressed how they have been deciding to use the political process rather than guns to settle their differences."
Poor Joe....open mouth, insert foot.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:28 pm to Navytiger74
quote:
Are you serious? What the frick is it with Army guys?
WTF is up with us is that we were there and spoke directly to the average citizens of that country for months and years. We didnt rely on the media to tell us how things were going or how the Iraqis felt. Folks that werent on the ground can only believe what they are told. Until you see the gratitude that the Iraqis gave the US first hand, you cant truly know what those citizens wanted.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:30 pm to LSURussian
Iran to the rescue!
WSJ
WSJ
quote:
BEIRUT, Lebanon—Iran has deployed Revolutionary Guard forces to fight al Qaeda-inspired militants that have overrun a string of Iraqi cities, and it has helped Iraqi troops win back control of most of Tikrit, Iranian security sources said.
Two battalions of the Quds Forces, the elite overseas branch of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps that have long operated in Iraq, have come to the aid of the besieged, Shiite-dominated government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, they said.
Combined Iraqi-Iranian forces had retaken control across 85% of Tikrit, the birthplace of former dictator Saddam Hussein, according to Iraqi and Iranian security sources.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:31 pm to Rohan2Reed
Well, frick
That really deserves it's own thread.
That really deserves it's own thread.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:33 pm to asurob1
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Oh for frick's sake.
By all means let's kill women and children because that will assure the population of any country we invade will support us.
Do you have any fricking clue what is was like to fight over there? The "bad" Iraqis used women and children against us all the time. They would stand behind them and fire at us because they knew we wouldnt or couldnt shoot back. Sometimes innocent people die but I would rather it had been their innocent people then our soldiers.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:33 pm to asurob1
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This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:37 pm to Rohan2Reed
quote:
Iran to the rescue!
WSJ
quote:
BEIRUT, Lebanon—Iran has deployed Revolutionary Guard forces to fight al Qaeda-inspired militants that have overrun a string of Iraqi cities, and it has helped Iraqi troops win back control of most of Tikrit, Iranian security sources said.
Two battalions of the Quds Forces, the elite overseas branch of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps that have long operated in Iraq, have come to the aid of the besieged, Shiite-dominated government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, they said.
Combined Iraqi-Iranian forces had retaken control across 85% of Tikrit, the birthplace of former dictator Saddam Hussein, according to Iraqi and Iranian security sources.
beautiful!
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:39 pm to asurob1
Christ, what a clusterfrick. And this is only the beginning.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:41 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Allow me to explain the OP's question, since apparently he didn't get his point across or, more likely, most of you didn't actually read the OP and just saw the words Obama/Iraq/Blame and started shooting from the hip.
Bush Planned and implemented the withdrawal from Iraq.
Obama continued with Bush's plan.
Obama claimed full credit for the withdrawal.
The question is:
Will Obama now blame Bush for pulling out too early causing the current unrest in the country after he falsely claimed responsibility for the pullout?
Thank you...
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:50 pm to Lsut81
quote:Really?
Bush Planned and implemented the withdrawal from Iraq
And when you say "planned", do you mean he circled a day on the calendar? What other "planning" did he really do... especially since McCain had no intention of leaving Iraq.
Keep up the good work for thy Dear Leader GWB.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:52 pm to Rohan2Reed
quote:So Muslims killing Muslims because they are killing other Muslims and none of them are any where near American soil.
BEIRUT, Lebanon—Iran has deployed Revolutionary Guard forces to fight al Qaeda-inspired militants that have overrun a string of Iraqi cities, and it has helped Iraqi troops win back control of most of Tikrit, Iranian security sources said.
Someone please explain to me why this is a bad thing.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:52 pm to Lsut81
did any of you other WSJ subscribers read Henninger today? he slaughters this guy on his ineptitude! there's some great lines.
boom
classic!
Daniel Henninger / WSJ
quote:
Now if you want to vent about " George Bush's war," be my guest. But George Bush isn't president anymore. Barack Obama is because he wanted the job and the responsibilities that come with the American presidency. Up to now, burying those responsibilities in the sand has never been in the job description.
boom
quote:
The big Obama bet is that Americans' opinion-polled "fatigue" with the world (if not his leadership) frees him to create a progressive domestic legacy. This Friday Mr. Obama is giving a speech to the Sioux Indians in Cannon Ball, N.D., about "jobs and education."
Meanwhile, Iraq may be transforming into (a) a second Syria or (b) a restored caliphate. Past some point, the world's wildfires are going to consume the Obama legacy. And leave his successor a nightmare.
classic!
Daniel Henninger / WSJ
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:55 pm to LSURussian
quote:
So Muslims killing Muslims because they are killing other Muslims and none of them are any where near American soil.
Someone please explain to me why this is a bad thing.
not necessarily a "bad" thing. just an embarrassment to the administration that claims al qaeda has been decimated.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:56 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
Really?
And when you say "planned", do you mean he circled a day on the calendar? What other "planning" did he really do... especially since McCain had no intention of leaving Iraq.
Keep up the good work for thy Dear Leader GWB.
Ever heard of the Status of Forces Agreement? Signed in November 2008?
It was designed and negotiated by the Bush administration and then followed to a T when withdrawing.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:57 pm to Rohan2Reed
quote:
not necessarily a "bad" thing. just an embarrassment to the administration that claims al qaeda has been decimated.
AQ is on the run. To Mosul, to Tikrit, to Karbala...
Posted on 6/12/14 at 1:00 pm to Rohan2Reed
quote:Since 'decimated' literally means reduced by 10%, that could be an accurate claim.
. just an embarrassment to the administration that claims al qaeda has been decimated.
Now watch out for the other 90% of those f*ckers!
Posted on 6/12/14 at 1:04 pm to LSURussian
Obama has come out and said that the Iraqis "must find a political solution to this crisis".
I guess he's not picking up those 3AM phone calls from Baghdad.
I guess he's not picking up those 3AM phone calls from Baghdad.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 1:11 pm to Lsut81
quote:
Bush Planned and implemented the withdrawal from Iraq.
Obama continued with Bush's plan.
Obama claimed full credit for the withdrawal.
Obama inherited a shitty situation in Iraq. Unfortunately he sought political solutions to the problems, not practical.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 1:13 pm to TankCommander
quote:
you cant truly know what those citizens wanted.
Touche. I also can't comprehend how spending trillions of American dollars and thousands of American lives to make those people's lives worse is some kind of achievement.
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