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re: Anyone have a 70 inch TV?

Posted on 6/1/14 at 10:55 pm to
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 10:55 pm to
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Not true. Nothing is filmed in 4k yet

lolwut? No. They clearly have some media filmed in 4k. Unless you just mean Netflix
Posted by lighter345
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 10:58 pm to
House of Cards season 2 is available to be streamed in 4K.

LINK
Posted by dallastiger55
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 11:06 pm to
i meant netflix

thats being upconverted
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:14 am to
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dallastiger55
you apparently don't realize that most movies and many shows are recorded in 4K and then downconverted to 2K for theaters and then to 1080p for consumers.
Posted by Notro
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:14 am to
BB also.....

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Curious to watch all of the grisly deaths in Breaking Bad, but in a higher resolution? You've only got a month or so to wait, as Netflix has confirmed that it'll begin streaming the show in 4K and Dolby 5.1 at some point in June.
Posted by Crimson G
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:22 am to
I read two tech articles about 4k, and the takeaway seemed to be that unless you're planning on sitting extremely close to a large TV, that there's no reason to get 4k, you won't be able to tell the difference.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:57 am to
Oh hell yes.

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I read two tech articles about 4k, and the takeaway seemed to be that unless you're planning on sitting extremely close to a large TV, that there's no reason to get 4k, you won't be able to tell the difference.

Can't tell a difference? That's absolutely absurd. It will make an incredible difference, especially in larger size screens
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 6:57 am
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 8:37 am to
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Not true. Nothing is filmed in 4k yet

Technically somewhat true. "Film" has to be mastered to 4K or 2K through post production processing if not shot natively via digital cameras at 4K. Many movies are now shot entirely in 4k. Elysium and Pacific RIM are examples where all the live action is shot using 4K cameras. The CGI effects are also produced at these same resolutions.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 8:41 am to
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I read two tech articles about 4k, and the takeaway seemed to be that unless you're planning on sitting extremely close to a large TV, that there's no reason to get 4k, you won't be able to tell the difference.
I remember the early days of HD when old timers then were poo-pooing Blu-ray and HD-DVD by saying, "Well, it's all just to sell more TV and players You sit 10' away and you won't see the difference."

This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 8:42 am
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:15 am to
I have a 65" Vizio M series. It is amazing. It has 240 native refresh instead of simulated 240. It is not bad at all on the "soap opera effect" You get use to it and everything else looks choppy. Sharp is a good brand. I was going to go 70" sharp but it was larger than the console table and the wife wasn't having that.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:28 am to
If this were the OT I might write something else, but I'll just write instead that EVERY videophile publication will tell you to turn that off. That has zero possibility if looking normal.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:40 am to
I have the 55" of the same vizio m series TV and really like it. With the same specs it's about half the price of the Sony and Samsung (granted I understand those will still have better pictures).
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:52 am to
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but I'll just write instead that EVERY videophile publication will tell you to turn that off.


I can't turn it off. It's native. I can turn off the simulated refresh rate of 480 or whatever.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22220 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:54 am to
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That's absolutely absurd. It will make an incredible difference, especially in larger size screens


I think that's the point. If it is smaller than a certain screen size (50"), then you won't be able to tell a difference. Larger screens you can. I believe I read once that movie theatres are actually 4k because they are so large.
Posted by Boondock Saint
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:39 pm to
I bought the first 80" Sharp when it came out a little over 2 and a half years ago. It has been a great TV. I highly recommend Sharps.

Mine is 120 and SOA was awful when I first got it. I had never heard of it and was freaking out. Luckily I Googled it and learned how to turn it off immediately. Anybody that wathces TV with that shite on is crazy.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:38 pm to
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I can't turn it off. It's native. I can turn off the simulated refresh rate of 480 or whatever.
Being 240 Hz has nothing to do with the SOE, which is not native and it's not natural. Here is how to get rid of it: Turn OFF Smooth Motion Effect. Here are calibrations for your set that should improve your picture.

Set Picture Mode to: Movie
Backlight 84
Contrast 81
Brightness 50
Sharpness 20
Color 53
Tint 0


Color Temperature (Grayscale)

Color Temp Custom (options: Cool, Computer, Normal)
Red Gain 139
Green Gain 116
Blue Gain 129
Red Offset 130
Green Offset 130
Blue Offset 130

Advanced Picture Menu

Smart Dimming Off
Smooth Motion Effect Off
Noise Reduction Off
MPEG NR Off
Color Enhancement Off
Adaptive Luma Off
Backlight Control Off
Ambient Light Sensor Off

You should be good to go! Enjoy. :-)

Oh, and optimal settings for your set can vary some by set. Try these as initial settings and then play around until its pleasing to you. I recommend purchasing Digital Video Essentials and using this to fine-tune your set as close as you can. I use a Sencore sensor for gray-scale and color calibration.

Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22220 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:47 pm to
Thanks for the post. I actually don't use the smooth motion effect. I believe I might have misposted what I meant. I believe the smooth motion effect simulates 480 or higher Hz.
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
5635 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:12 pm to
I have the Sharp Q+ 70 inch that can play 4k content.
LINK

The picture is absolutely amazing on nearly everything. Out of the box it was pretty meh but after calibrating it is stunning. Will accept a 4k feed from other sources via HDMI cable. Which wasn't the selling point for me. The TV performs much better than the other 1080p sets I looked at. I couldn't care less if it plays 4k because there really is no content.

Streaming 4k youtube videos will make you drool though. Highly recommend.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 5:16 pm to
What is The Soap Opera Effect?

This is a really good article that describes it. Use it for football games, baseball games, etc..

Don't use it for movies and Television shows.
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 5:17 pm
Posted by forksup
Member since Dec 2013
8817 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:38 pm to
Interesting, I was watching a pre-recorded soccer game on a 4k TV at Fry's Electronics and there was definitely a big difference even from 20-30 feet. It was unbelievably clean from the pitch's grass blades to the player's uniforms. It was probably a cleaner and better view than at the stadium. (Video was shot at 2nd level of stadium covering about 25-30% of the field)
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