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re: Audiences flood to see Noah
Posted on 4/19/14 at 7:05 pm to Revelator
Posted on 4/19/14 at 7:05 pm to Revelator
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Well I don't go to movies for theology, but to be entertained. I don't look to Hollywood for spiritual guidance and I'm surprised some do.
Agreed and the movie was not entertaining at all. Go see Draft Day instead. It was really good.
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Posted on 4/19/14 at 7:06 pm to Revelator
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Well I don't go to movies for theology, but to be entertained. I don't look to Hollywood for spiritual guidance and I'm surprised some do.
I like what Mel did with that movie, he combined all 4 accounts of the Passion into a single story, I thought it was excellent. It doesn't beat praying with scripture, but I think God can use media to bring people closer to him. I'll say this it is the most accurate as far as pain inflicted on Christ in the passion.
on Noah did they do anything with covering the nakedness of their father. If you understand the euphemisms of Genesis you would get what was going on. If you don't I'll just let you imagine what it means.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 7:11 pm to catholictigerfan
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on Noah did they do anything with covering the nakedness of their father. If you understand the euphemisms of Genesis you would get what was going on. If you don't I'll just let you imagine what it means.
I didn't see the movie but I have heard some speculate that," uncovering his nakedness" refers to having sexual relations with him?
This post was edited on 4/19/14 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 4/19/14 at 7:16 pm to Da Sheik
Forget the religious aspect, this was a bad movie period.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 7:47 pm to Revelator
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Well I don't go to movies for theology, but to be entertained. I don't look to Hollywood for spiritual guidance and I'm surprised some do.
The best of our Art can bear witness to Truth, Rev. Picasso said that "Art is a lie, that makes us realize the Truth". Surely, the work of our hands/minds is a tool at best.
I seriously doubt that those who produced and directed "Noah" were Christian. Or if so, the clarity of their vision, and faith...is weak.
I look at Mel like he knows where he stands. given his temperament, in trouble, but for the Grace of Christ.
I'm heading down to photo an Easter Sunrise Service on the Tickfaw River in the morn. Probably do a painting. That will be challenging; but a subject not lacking Power or Beauty.
Happy Easter.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 8:28 pm to catholictigerfan
The movie wasnt TERRIBLE, but I wouldnt see it again. The production value was high at least.
My problem with it is it just grants more credence to the idea that this actually happened in the minds of biblical literalists. They see that an atheist made a movie about Noah and just assume lots of people across the board believe the story.
My problem with it is it just grants more credence to the idea that this actually happened in the minds of biblical literalists. They see that an atheist made a movie about Noah and just assume lots of people across the board believe the story.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 10:14 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Forget the religious aspect, this was a bad movie period.
This.
People are cutting this movie slack because it advances their agenda (both those that want religious movies and those that enjoy seeing religious people pissed off by religious movies done badly).
It's just a badly done film. Plain and simple.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 10:32 pm to Roger Klarvin
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My problem with it is it just grants more credence to the idea that this actually happened in the minds of biblical literalists.
Why do you care what these people think?
I haven't observed where people are being rounded up and forced to conform by other people who literally believe the bible.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 10:33 pm to weagle99
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I haven't observed where people are being rounded up and forced to conform by other people who literally believe the bible.
yeah it's been a long time since this was done.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 11:05 pm to weagle99
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Why do you care what these people think?
Because a person capable of believing in the biblical account of the flood can literally be convinced of anything, and when enough people in the population possess such credulity it can be dangerous.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 11:13 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Because a person capable of believing in the biblical account of the flood can literally be convinced of anything, and when enough people in the population possess such credulity it can be dangerous.
So this is your litmus test? It wasn't those that believe in the creation and flood story that put Obama in office and I'd wonder about the logic of those voters before I'd wonder about fundies.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 11:17 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Because a person capable of believing in the biblical account of the flood can literally be convinced of anything, and when enough people in the population possess such credulity it can be dangerous.
If this is your concern there are easily dozens or more other ideas / beliefs that are already having more of a negative impact on your life than a literal interpretation of the Bible.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 11:20 pm to Revelator
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It wasn't those that believe in the creation and flood story that put Obama in office and I'd wonder about the logic of those voters before I'd wonder about fundies.
Meh, blacks and hispanics voted for Obama at a clip of 95% and 85% respectively and no group as a whole believes in the literal account of genesis at a higher percentage than they do.
That really isn't what I was talking about anyway, though.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 11:26 pm to Revelator
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I didn't see the movie but I have heard some speculate that," uncovering his nakedness" refers to having sexual relations with him?
you are correct but that would be Noah's wife not Noah himself.
but that is for another time and place
but in all seriousness Noah laid down a pretty serious punishment for a seemingly small crime, but when you understand the euphemisms you can see why he did that. the people in the city of man where not that holy.
This post was edited on 4/19/14 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 4/20/14 at 12:18 am to Roger Klarvin
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Because a person capable of believing in the biblical account of the flood can literally be convinced of anything, and when enough people in the population possess such credulity it can be dangerous.
A significantly higher % of people believed the story of Noah in when the American Revolution was fought than did when the Noah movie debuted. We made it OK from then until now. What are you worried is going to happen?
Posted on 4/20/14 at 12:30 am to Roger Klarvin
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Meh, blacks and hispanics voted for Obama at a clip of 95% and 85% respectively and no group as a whole believes in the literal account of genesis at a higher percentage than they do.
These people voted for Obama because he is black not because they believed in the flood!!
Posted on 4/20/14 at 1:00 am to olgoi khorkhoi
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A significantly higher % of people believed the story of Noah in when the American Revolution was fought than did when the Noah movie debuted. We made it OK from then until now. What are you worried is going to happen?
Believing the flood account in 1776 required no credulity on the part of the believer. There were not mountains and mountains of geological, biological, genetic, historical, climatological and chemical evidence against it then. Believing such a thing was perfectly acceptable, given that pretty much anything any layman knew at the time was based on what they were taught (usually by other laymen) and personal observation.
However, believing in the literal account of the flood in 2014 requires a level of ignorance and credulity I personally cannot fathom given our current access to knowledge. It's literally no different from believing the sun orbits the earth.
This post was edited on 4/20/14 at 1:02 am
Posted on 4/20/14 at 1:06 am to Revelator
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These people voted for Obama because he is black not because they believed in the flood!!
They voted for him because they possess a certain level of ignorance and gullibility, part of which encompasses voting for someone just because of their skin color. A belief in something like the flood is indicative of a larger inability to think critically, and I would argue someone who votes for someone based on nothing but skin color has a deficiency in critical thinking skills.
Again though, elections werent really what I was referencing. Willful ignorance of the world around us is a dangerous thing if it occurs in bulk amongst a population.
Posted on 4/20/14 at 1:17 am to Roger Klarvin
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Believing the flood account in 1776 required no credulity on the part of the believer. There were not mountains and mountains of geological, biological, genetic, historical, climatological and chemical evidence against it then. Believing such a thing was perfectly acceptable, given that pretty much anything any layman knew at the time was based on what they were taught (usually by other laymen) and personal observation. However, believing in the literal account of the flood in 2014 requires a level of ignorance and credulity I personally cannot fathom given our current access to knowledge. It's literally no different from believing the sun orbits the earth.
You forgot to say what you're worried will happen.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 8:17 pm to weagle99
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Roger Klarvin
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If this is your concern there are easily dozens or more other ideas / beliefs that are already having more of a negative impact on your life than a literal interpretation of the Bible.
Here is an example of what I am talking about:
LINK
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 8:28 pm
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