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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 4/10/14 at 7:25 am to
Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 7:25 am to
Wat tha? Now they're saying a plane picked up a new signal.

Also what's the deal with Sarah Bajc? She claims to be the SO of someone on the flight. She believes the flight was tailed by a military aircraft and headed for an AFB before disappearing.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 7:57 am to
Why would she believe that
Posted by notiger1997
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:00 am to
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Why would she believe that


Probably because she read some stupid shite like that on the internets.
Posted by au21tigers
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:10 am to
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Probably because she read this


LINK
Posted by chalupa
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:21 am to
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Wat tha? Now they're saying a plane picked up a new signal.


Link?
This post was edited on 4/10/14 at 8:22 am
Posted by Camo Tiger 337
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:22 am to
I'm sure this has already been asked but I'll ask again..

IF, IF wreckage is found(Say a small piece of debris, spotted with eyes on a vessel). Ok say they find that; then what's the next step? Mark where it was found in hopes of finding more? What if they come back but this time with sonar, and detect something that has already sunken. So they get divers to go check it out; but how will they be able to retrieve it? Large pieces of debris in dark waters, how do they get it onto the ship for observation? I mean large as in a wing maybe, or something to large for divers to retrieve while underwater. What risks to human life are there? Sharks? Eels and rays? Water pressure?

Main point -- even if wreckage is found, how do they go about retrieving it if it's too deep?
This post was edited on 4/10/14 at 8:23 am
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:25 am to
Camo


I think if they are "close" to the area then they will eventually find something....Didnt it take 2 years to retrieve pieces of Air France or whatever? They just need to keep getting the area "correct" then stick to that area...
Posted by Camo Tiger 337
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:30 am to
Mornin Longhorn


quote:

I think if they are "close" to the area then they will eventually find something....Didnt it take 2 years to retrieve pieces of Air France or whatever?
Yep. They knew where it was, just took them 2 years to get the black box.

With all these "pings" that they're getting, makes it very interesting. What I don't get is just how the hell are going to retrieve it if it's at the bottom of the ocean. There has to be some type of top flight equipment capable of doing that right? I know at least someone here can answer that. They answer everything
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:30 am to
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So they get divers to go check it out; but how will they be able to retrieve it? What risks to human life are there?



Humans can't go as deep as that ocean is.
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:32 am to
Too deep for divers, obviously some kind of robotic equipment.
Posted by Camo Tiger 337
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:33 am to
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Humans can't go as deep as that ocean is.
I know.. they can only go what, couple hundred feet? Think I seen about 140 on CNN yesterday.

You have to think of all the risks that you'll have in a recovery mission like this though. CNN showed a clip of a diver going in. They didn't show him going deep, just showed him diving in and moving around on the surface with a flashlight. Say he would've seen something. How would they have retrieved it?
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:36 am to
yeah they said something like the equipment they are using to detect the pings is going 1,000 ft under water...well the bottom of the ocean floor in that area is like 20 empire state buildings stacked on top of each other





Still not ruling out the chance of this bad boy landing in the middle east somewheres
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:36 am to
Come on man. . . You honestly think divers can go to the bottom of the ocean?
Posted by Camo Tiger 337
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:39 am to
Oh yeah. They said that's a bad boy right there! They said they got signals again yesterday and this time from 15,000 feet




Posted by Camo Tiger 337
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:41 am to
Didn't I just say about 140 feet according to CNN?
Posted by supadave3
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:34 am to
Not trying to be morbid, but lets just say they find this thing and are able to retrieve a large section of fuselage in 6 months or so. Can you imagine the condition the bodies will be in after sitting at the bottom of the ocean for that long? I would guess that at some point they would be munched on to the point of being skeletons, but think of all the stages before that point.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:36 am to
quote:

IF, IF wreckage is found(Say a small piece of debris, spotted with eyes on a vessel). Ok say they find that; then what's the next step?


I'm not sure if finding debris on the surface is really of any use due to the amount of time its been in the water (currents, storms pushing it around and such).

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What if they come back but this time with sonar, and detect something that has already sunken.


I think they're still trying to pick up more pings to shrink the search area. After those batteries die the signal will be lost forever, so they want as much ping data as possible to narrow the search before using sonar to map the area they've determined the plane is in.

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So they get divers to go check it out; but how will they be able to retrieve it? Large pieces of debris in dark waters, how do they get it onto the ship for observation? I mean large as in a wing maybe, or something to large for divers to retrieve while underwater. What risks to human life are there? Sharks? Eels and rays? Water pressure?


They'll have to use something like what James Cameron used to explore the Mariana trench. Some of those "vessels" or whatever you want to call them have arms and could possibly attach a series of cables to certain areas of the plane, then hope to reel it up to the surface. Cameron went to depths of almost 35,000 feet, and this plane is probably not even half that distance, so I'm sure it can be retrieved.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 11:02 am to
I don't see the need for humans to go down there at all. There are only a handful of vessels capable of taking a human to those depths. But the world is full of ROVs that can do it.
Posted by CurDog
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 11:06 am to
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Think I seen about 140 on CNN yesterday


are saying feet? then no, i have been to about 180. some free divers have gone to over 300 feet
Posted by J311slx
Las Vegas
Member since Sep 2011
1978 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 11:12 am to
Regarding the bodies, I would imagine they wouldn't recover any due to the effects of pressure on them at that depth??

I haven't researched this just a guess
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