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re: OT potheads, what's your opinion of "wax?"

Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:21 am to
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:21 am to
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I think she means people just eaten up with full blown cases of "the dumbass". Which you have to be if you're doing this shite.


It's weed man..... Very strong weed but they're still smoking weed.....

Wtf is so stupid about that?
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:22 am to
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One hit keeps you high for a day?? this is some hyperbolic bs

Yea my friend is in CO and they call it Moonrock. It's very powerful per weight but it's not like they make it sound. Just takes way less to get high. A good thing.
Posted by Alabama Slim
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:29 am to
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“We have seen people have an onset of psychosis and even brain damage from that exposure to that high concentration of THC,” said Gary Hill, assistant special agent in charge at the DEA's San Diego office. “Our concern is that this is going to spread before we get it under control.”


what is the DEA going to do when the general public gets knowledgeable enough to laugh at their bullshite. That day isn't far off.
Posted by MrCoachKlein
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:30 am to
Rippin dabs bra, rippin dabs
Posted by RTOTA
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:37 am to
I think this is the same thing as Phoenix Tears, which are prescribed to some cancer patients. A pound of weed refined down to two ounces of oil. Good stuff
Posted by Geaux9
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:38 am to
I've smoked hash, wax, and the best weed there is, and I've never been high more than 3-4 hours. Suffering from brain damage or going crazy from THC??
Posted by iliveinabox
in a box
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:46 am to
Bho, and or "wax" is the fire.
Posted by iliveinabox
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:48 am to
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Moonrock
that is not thc related breh!
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 1:22 am to
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what is the DEA going to do when the general public gets knowledgeable enough to laugh at their bullshite. That day isn't far off.


They raise a legitimate concern in this case, though it's poorly worded here. A lab-altered version is going to mess with the ratio of the cannabinoids in the plant. The lower the cannabidiol:thc gets, the higher the risk for psychosis and most of the "negative" effects (memory impairment, agitation, among others). In all likelihood, it probably won't lead to as high a number of ED visits as the synthetics (which is where the "brain damage scare" idea comes from, and legitimately, I may add) as THC is still only a partial (elsewhere in body) agonist of the CB1 (brain) and CB2 receptors, CBD is antagonistic on at least the CB1 (haven't read about its activity on CB2 anywhere, unsure if it is being looked at) and most of the synthetics are full agonists with much higher affinity for the CB1s only. It's currently thought that CBD is protective against a lot of the "bad" effects of CB1 stimulation. So, assuming the ratio gets thrown in the higher THC:CBD direction, it's conceivable that you do run a greater risk of these negative side effects requiring ED visits, even hospitalizations vs plane-old marijuana (which of course also comes in plenty of varieties...there are over 50 known cannabinoids in the marijuana plant, and these are, currently, thought to be either the two or two of the main players. Whether this gains popularity, its effect on ED visits and admissions, and how it affects "normal" people vs what I've seen called "latent schizophrenics" is actually all pretty decent concerns for the DEA and justification for warning against its use.


That's an attempt to be "straight down the middle" on the subject where there seems to be some fair amount of misinformation. There are good arguments on both sides. As far as the "ground to bong" stuff that isn't altered in a lab, there are less compelling public safety concerns for its criminalization. Though I think a very interesting question to ask, particularly to those who desire it medically, is "if the THC and other euphoria-inducers were present in only some trace amount to nonexistent, and the CBD (anxiolytic, seizure protective, antipsychotic, antidepressant... Most of your "good" effects, medically speaking) to the point that smoking did not create the "high" but the rest of the health benefits (ignoring the effects of particulate matter inhalation on the respiratory mucosa for the sake of this question), would you still want to smoke it?"
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 1:40 am
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 1:27 am to
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Wax, the ultimate distillation of marijuana, is so potent that it is said a single hit will keep a person high for more than a day.
nah
Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 1:29 am to
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aggressive behavior
Wat?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 1:40 am to
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quote: aggressive behavior
Wat?


Meant to say "agitation," but it is late. CB1 pathway stimulation reduces aggression, but overstimulation leads to agitation and psychosis. Will edit those two words.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 1:59 am to
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"if the THC and other euphoria-inducers were present in only some trace amount to nonexistent, and the CBD (anxiolytic, seizure protective, antipsychotic, antidepressant... Most of your "good" effects, medically speaking) to the point that smoking did not create the "high" but the rest of the health benefits (ignoring the effects of particulate matter inhalation on the respiratory mucosa for the sake of this question), would you still want to smoke it?"


If I was sick and it made me better of course I would.

But I don't see the problem in a medicine also making you feel euphoric when it offers minimal risk of addiction and harm.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:29 am to
Pothead here, do not want. I enjoy the act of smoking marijuana, one hit that last over a day would ruin the experience.

Not to mention, I would never want to be high for that long.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:35 am to
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Pothead here, do not want. I enjoy the act of smoking marijuana, one hit that last over a day would ruin the experience.


That's not even close to being true. It doesn't even make you that much, if any higher than some high quality bud. It just doesn't take as much to get there.
Posted by Karnac
Colorado
Member since Aug 2010
278 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:48 am to
My main concern is that one of the extraction processes uses butane. (There are other methods of extraction out there.) If you buy a product with butane residue in it that's a problem. If there is only 1% butane residue in the wax is that good? And while we are at it, what is a safe level of rat balls in your food?


This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 2:00 am
Posted by xXLSUXx
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:51 am to
Can't wait to try it.
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:52 am to
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what is a safe level of rat balls in your food?


2%
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:15 am to
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Butane, a substance so flammable that any spark can set off an explosion, is used to strip out the THC, the chemical in marijuana that gets a person high. 



So........reefer madness is back?

That's just butane made hash. And it's not deadly. And high for more than a day? Yeah right. It just take less to get you there. Sure 1 hit can make you as high as a bowl or joint but it's not some crazy new drug.

They just renamed hash wax and are using it as a scare tactic.

It would be comical if it wasn't so stupid.

Further, butane isn't the only way to make it. But it's probably the fastest.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 6:23 am
Posted by DLauw
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Member since Sep 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:21 am to
Sorry about the downvote (fat fingers) I came here to say the same thing.
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