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re: OT potheads, what's your opinion of "wax?"

Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:56 am to
Posted by Prosecuted Collins
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:56 am to
It's legit with a titanium nail. It's around BR, so us butter, bho and shatter.
Posted by Michael J Cocks
Right Here
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:56 am to
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It can wait until you can smoke.


retirement or the complete legalization in all 50 states with a form of pot that's out of your piss within 48 hours. Whichever comes first.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:57 am to
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Damn ridiculous. And I see this first hand EVERYDAY at work in the ER



And in the ER everyday how many overdoses of THC do you treat...?

I'll hang up now and listen to your biased bullshite.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:00 am to
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Pothead here, do not want. I enjoy the act of smoking marijuana, one hit that last over a day would ruin the experience.

Not to mention, I would never want to be high for that long.


It really lasts about the same as smoking normal stuff. It's just a stronger onset. It does not last a day, or even four hours IME.
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:00 am to
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Moonrock
that is not thc related breh!


A quick google search tells me that he just admitted on the OT to doing heroine and crack

Nice.

ETA: or hardcore MDMA. Either way, how can you confuse those with weed?
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 8:08 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:01 am to
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Damn ridiculous. And I see this first hand EVERYDAY at work in the ER
You see a bunch of weed heads in the ER? bullshite.

More alcohol industry propaganda. Lady Gaga is "hopelessly addicted" to weed. There has been "a 300% jump in marijuana-related auto fatalities over the last decade."

They're scared. They should be. People who want to get their groove on don't have to get fat and slowly kill themselves anymore. I'd be worried too. BTW, one of the Democrats' many dirty little secrets is the fact that the alcohol industry contributes to them at about a 65% rate. That's why Obama quickly withdrew his factual statement about weed being less harmful than alcohol. That is an undeniable fact.

Never heard of and I'm not interested in "wax," but I bet if I injected pure alcohol directly into my veins, it would have a similar or worse negative effect.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:02 am to
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but that does nothing to help make the case for legalization when you're going up against rich white men and conservative soccer moms that demonize weed.


good thing majority rules in this nation.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:07 am to
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Never heard of and I'm not interested in "wax," but I bet if I injected pur


You ever heard of hash or even used a kief press?
Posted by Michael J Cocks
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:07 am to
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good thing majority rules in this nation


Lulz.

Money rules in this nation. Money.

1 rich dude has more power than 1000 poor ones.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:09 am to
Money can't do much if you're ace doesn't get elected. The money will bend when the mob sways.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56317 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:18 am to
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You ever heard of hash or even used a kief press?
What I mean is that any chemical can be "weaponized," so to speak. The angle of this story is that legal weed will lead to "dangerous" substances like wax. More hysterical bullshite, and it is coming from the alcohol industry. Their lobby shops have been popping hard lately. It's lib on lib crime, and will be fascinating to watch.
Posted by Michael J Cocks
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:18 am to
lots of "ifs" in you're equation. Generally something becomes legal or illegal when old money figures out a way to capitalize on it either way. Our vote doesn't matter much.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:22 am to
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You see a bunch of weed heads in the ER? bullshite.


Shorter version of what I posted earlier: weed sends plenty of people to the ER. They essentially all have underlying psych issues, though. It's the "tipping point" to temporary commitment fairly frequently.
Synthetic weed is documented as causing brain damage, other organ damage, and a host of psychiatric issues in otherwise normal adults.
For details of why a lab-level concentrated amount of the drug is at least worrisome, see my previous post in the thread. It's pretty unlikely that it will cause the myriad of problems the synthetics are capable of, but it's also very conceivable that those that border on mental illness, or worse, those with "healthy" brains will see the ill, psychotic effects.


But the way it's reported is kind of stupid/scare tactic-y (maybe justifiable- they're trying to prevent hospital admissions basically). If I could get an RSS feed of the actual facts of stories without the added media flavor, i would pay big money for it.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:23 am to
Vaporizer FTW
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:25 am to
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angle of this story is that legal weed will lead to "dangerous" substances like wax.


Very stupid angle. If anything, I could see this same story being flipped for the legalization of marijuana by licensed growers who agreed to not alter (other than simple breeding, of course) the substance before selling it. Everyone wins.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:31 am to
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. Generally something becomes legal or illegal when old money figures out a way to capitalize on it either way. Our vote doesn't matter much.


I think that is wrong, more and more.. Money is trying to seperate as THEY CAN'T get what they want.

See North Colorado, South Baton Rouge for examples.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:33 am to
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Synthetic weed is documented as causing brain damage, other organ damage, and a host of psychiatric issues in otherwise normal adults.


synthetic weed is nothing like weed, it's a chemical sprayed onto plant matter.

And the people who go to the doctor for weed usually (affirmed by your post) have other issues as well.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:42 am to
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synthetic weed is nothing like weed, it's a chemical sprayed onto plant matter.


I understand exactly what it is. You're missing my point a little though- the (synthetic) chemical binds the receptor better and also has less-to-no of the CBD (antipsychotic in weed that opposes THC, basically). So there are two parts to why it can damage the healthy brain. Both can be also be somewhat addressed in the concern for this wax stuff:
1) Is THC able to cause these same effects in higher concentrations? Maybe. Maybe not. Probably not, even. But maybe.
2) does the concentration process raise/lower/neither the THC:CBD ratio? Unknown. The more the THC:CBD ratio goes up, the higher potential it has to lead to psychotic episodes (not just your normal high) in a normal individual. Does this effect eventually plateau? Probably. Where? Who knows. Thus the fear from the DEA.

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:43 am to
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Shorter version of what I posted earlier: weed sends plenty of people to the ER. They essentially all have underlying psych issues, though. It's the "tipping point" to temporary commitment fairly frequently.
So are you saying that all people who smoke weed have underlying psych issues or that people who were fricked in the head to begin with went off after getting high? The former is laughable and the latter is not proof of causality.
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Synthetic weed is documented as causing brain damage, other organ damage, and a host of psychiatric issues in otherwise normal adults.
Synthetic weed wouldn't exist if real weed wasn't illegal.
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For details of why a lab-level concentrated amount of the drug is at least worrisome, see my previous post in the thread.
I agree. It is potentially dangerous. So is pure alcohol, Drano and salt. If we started banning substances that can be concentrated to dangerous levels, we'd have to ban ALL SUBSTANCES.
Posted by TigerTreyjpg
Monroe, LA
Member since Jun 2008
5815 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:50 am to
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One hit keeps you high for a day?? this is some hyperbolic bs


Agreed. And I'm telling y'all, the opinions on weed/wax from folks like me are the best barometer of this while legalization situation.

When I opened the thread, and saw all the government official's comments, I immediately thought "BS, reefer madness, lies, etc."

And I'm almost 50, and never smoke. I do not believe that the government says about much of anything, really, but especially this (weed). That's what's changed, in a generation, IMO.
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