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re: 2003 team.....Could Les Miles have won an NC with that team.

Posted on 10/9/13 at 8:05 am to
Posted by LSUnowhas2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
21981 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 8:05 am to
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but since he ran away you guys think he walked on water.


winning 3 out of 4 national championships in this era of college football is damn near close to walking on water.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 8:06 am to
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If you were around to see the defense that we had for DiNardo's last two years, then you should know that he basically did walk on water with how fast things turned around.


they fired Tepper
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 8:07 am to
don't you shake your head at me, Peej
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4365 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 8:10 am to
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2003 team.....Could Les Miles have won an NC with that team.
Banned.....You need to be.

Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50492 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 8:13 am to
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winning 3 out of 4 national championships in this era of college football is damn near close to walking on water.


Not really.

There are several coaches and programs that could have done the same thing with easier schedules, crooked officiating, and mulligans.
Posted by Tyger1919
Pineville
Member since Sep 2009
1020 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 8:14 am to
Saban in his short time here has the same number of BCS bowl wins as Miles does in twice the time. Since saban recruits have been gone Miles has O BCS bowl wins and a 2-3 bowl record.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 8:52 am to
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Since saban recruits have been gone


for fricks sake....go hit yourself in the face with a fricking hammer
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 12:12 pm to
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but since he ran away you guys think he walked on water.

winning 3 out of 4 national championships in this era of college football is damn near close to walking on water.


No one ever said Nick isn't one of the best around, but anyone not seeing the advantage Nick has at Alabama over LSU and Les in the last couple seasons need to have their eyes checked.

In 2011, Alabama played Vandy, 2-6 in the SEC, and Tennessee, 1-7. In 2012, they played Missouri, 2-6, and Tennessee, 1-7. In 2013, they play Kentucky and Tennessee.

Who is LSU playing out of the east in these same seasons, Kentucky, Florida, South Carolina, Georgia. I don't think I have to tell you how successful these east schools, but for Kentucky, have been since 2011.

Add in the do over game Alabama got in 2011 and there should be no doubt to any but the totally blind how much harder it has been for LSU to do what they have done than what Alabama has done.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24297 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 12:20 pm to
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If you were around to see the defense that we had for DiNardo's last two years, then you should know that he basically did walk on water with how fast things turned around.




they fired Tepper


That is true. And there was talent there...but Saban took a team with an atrocious D, implemented his system and fielded the best D I've ever seen at LSU in four years to go with a crystal football.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
78140 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 12:41 pm to
Could Miles or Saban have taken the 1958 team and won with that talent ?
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 1:24 pm to
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No one ever said Nick isn't one of the best around, but anyone not seeing the advantage Nick has at Alabama over LSU and Les in the last couple seasons need to have their eyes checked.

In 2011, Alabama played Vandy, 2-6 in the SEC, and Tennessee, 1-7. In 2012, they played Missouri, 2-6, and Tennessee, 1-7. In 2013, they play Kentucky and Tennessee.

Who is LSU playing out of the east in these same seasons, Kentucky, Florida, South Carolina, Georgia. I don't think I have to tell you how successful these east schools, but for Kentucky, have been since 2011.

Add in the do over game Alabama got in 2011 and there should be no doubt to any but the totally blind how much harder it has been for LSU to do what they have done than what Alabama has done.


God....
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69126 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 1:35 pm to
You guys are forgetting we never have rp if saban was here. That is why this thread is pointless. But lets just say all players the same, i doubt Nick kicks rp or tm7 off. So again, thread is pointless.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69126 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 1:41 pm to
Sorry guys, saban is the best coach but hes at Bama. He didnt do this at any other school. They have a huge adavantage. Schedule, media bias, recruiting. Their history is the reason for this. But being rt in the middle of sec country means they will be in on every top recruit. Distance is never a real factor for them.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25320 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 1:56 pm to
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Is there lots of talk of how Mark Helfrich is winning with Chip Kelly's players?


No, because no PAC 12 fanbase is as dumb on a per person basis as Alabama fans, the creator of such an idiotic argument.
Posted by Alumni80
Mandeville, LA
Member since Oct 2003
288 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 2:00 pm to
Absolutely not, that was some great coaching in 2003, Miles would have screwed up the running back rotation and could never have put together those beautiful blitz packages that Saban and Muschamp put together. 2003 NC vintage Saban. 2007 team was going to be Saban's 2nd NC at LSU.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25320 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 2:01 pm to
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That is true. And there was talent there...but Saban took a team with an atrocious D, implemented his system and fielded the best D I've ever seen at LSU in four years to go with a crystal football.


That 2003 Defense was disgusting, but I think 2011 could give them a run for their money.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39989 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 2:02 pm to
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Miles would have screwed up the running back rotation


How do you figure that?

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and could never have put together those beautiful blitz packages that Saban and Muschamp put together


Maybe because he's not a defensive coach, dipshit.

quote:

2007 team was going to be Saban's 2nd NC at LSU.


Too bad he was at Bama. How can you see your keyboard with Saban's dick and balls all in your face?

Jesus, where you do fricks come from?
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 2:03 pm to
We're three days away from the Florida game and we're debating this hypothetical bullshite?

I only care about whether THIS team is going to win some championships. We're still in the hunt for the SEC!
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 2:27 pm to
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They have a huge adavantage


I don't even know why/how this can be debated.

When the SEC, in all their wisdom, decided LSU needed to not only play 1 of the 2 best in the east in recent years as normal, but they needed to play the other one too so they took Ga off the Bama schedule and put them on ours...well, that was the final straw for me.

I'm normally a keep your mouth shut and just play your schedule guy, but this BS SEC scheduling is getting to the twilight zone point as far as being bias in favor of one school.



Posted by LSUCouyon
ONTHELAKEATDELHI, La.
Member since Oct 2006
11329 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 2:37 pm to
C'mon GrandDad, That doesn't fit the narrative. You remember, Saban kicked all DiNardeaux's players off the team and started from scratch.How old are ya anyways?
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