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Mark Emmert: "Change is coming to NCAA"
Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:28 pm
quote:LINK
The discussion did touch briefly on whether the NCAA would consider creating a new big-school Bowl Division -- in essence, splitting up the current Division I. A packet distributed at the session called "Principles and Model for New Governance Structure" suggests that FBS institutions and conferences that are more closely aligned in issues and athletics resources form a new division.
Article is about many issues, but using the quote I posted: You control the new alignment/ divisions split. Where would you place LSU? Would you drop any of the currently SEC teams down? Realign for bigger conferences? You are in control. What would you do and how would it affect LSU?
Also, do you pay the players? Change any major agent rules?
Etc.
Geaux.
I know, I know. TL:DR.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 10:25 am
Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:30 pm to sportsaddit68
It will go into effect in the year 2030
Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:30 pm to sportsaddit68
So
SEC
ACC
PAC12
BIG10
BIG12
then everyone else in their own division?
Gonna be a lot of butthurt ULL fans.
SEC
ACC
PAC12
BIG10
BIG12
then everyone else in their own division?
Gonna be a lot of butthurt ULL fans.
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:31 pm to sportsaddit68
Of course LSU would be in the big bowl division.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:31 pm to sportsaddit68
Fragmenting the current Division I is a myopic idea that will negatively impact the long-term popularity of the sport.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:35 pm to sportsaddit68
quote:
Mark Emmert: "Change is coming to NCAA"
Mark Emmert handing in a resignation would be an excellent start.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:35 pm to sportsaddit68
I would make 3 or 4 super conferences
Big 10 would have 16
Big 12 would have 16
Pac 12 would have 16
SEC would have 16
maybe you could have a 6 or 8 team playoff winners of these 4 big conferences get automatic bids while the remaining slots go to at large teams.
to fill all these conferences you take teams from the American and ACC and some of the smaller conferences.
I think the best thing to do would be for the SEC to add two ACC teams should be added to the SEC. Keep them in the East and move Mizzouri to the West. That will give 8 for the west and 8 for the east.
Big 10 would most likely suck up most of the American Conference and some from the ACC. I would move Notre Dame to the Big 10. Big 12 would mostly take from some of the smaller conferences in the planes part of the country. Houston could be a team that could be added there.
Pac 12 would also take mostly from their part of the country, Bosie for sure would go there you could add Fresno State, maybe some other teams.
Regions of the country would still have an impact on what teams are in what conference, I think I would move West Virginia to the Big 10 just to fix the geography issue they have now in the big 12.
It would take me to long to split up all the teams but this is my idea behind it.
I may also want to create a couple of big mid major conferences who could get an auto bid if they meet certain requirements, example win the conference and be ranked in the top 5.
LSU wouldn't be affected that much only thing that would change in the schedule is we play mizzou every year, also I would do away with protected rivals and have a 9 game SEC schedule. 7 division games and 2 eastern conference games, rotating schedule against the east 1 away 1 home. In this system you would play each team once every 4 years or twice every 8.
sry for the long post.
Big 10 would have 16
Big 12 would have 16
Pac 12 would have 16
SEC would have 16
maybe you could have a 6 or 8 team playoff winners of these 4 big conferences get automatic bids while the remaining slots go to at large teams.
to fill all these conferences you take teams from the American and ACC and some of the smaller conferences.
I think the best thing to do would be for the SEC to add two ACC teams should be added to the SEC. Keep them in the East and move Mizzouri to the West. That will give 8 for the west and 8 for the east.
Big 10 would most likely suck up most of the American Conference and some from the ACC. I would move Notre Dame to the Big 10. Big 12 would mostly take from some of the smaller conferences in the planes part of the country. Houston could be a team that could be added there.
Pac 12 would also take mostly from their part of the country, Bosie for sure would go there you could add Fresno State, maybe some other teams.
Regions of the country would still have an impact on what teams are in what conference, I think I would move West Virginia to the Big 10 just to fix the geography issue they have now in the big 12.
It would take me to long to split up all the teams but this is my idea behind it.
I may also want to create a couple of big mid major conferences who could get an auto bid if they meet certain requirements, example win the conference and be ranked in the top 5.
LSU wouldn't be affected that much only thing that would change in the schedule is we play mizzou every year, also I would do away with protected rivals and have a 9 game SEC schedule. 7 division games and 2 eastern conference games, rotating schedule against the east 1 away 1 home. In this system you would play each team once every 4 years or twice every 8.
sry for the long post.
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:38 pm to sportsaddit68
I'll believe it when I see it.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:46 pm to sportsaddit68
Eight conferences with 9 teams would be the top level.
- No independents (ND).
- High commitment to playing to be one of the 72.
Go back to 11 games (no need to kill these kids).
- Every conference plays 8 game conference schedule.
- Teams can only schedule a game with a lower division rent-a-win once every 3 years.
- Max of 6 home games for any team in a given year (makes teams look for attractive trips/neutral site games)
8-team playoff, open only to conference champions.
- Teams are not drastically punished for the aforementioned OOC road games.
- Higher ranked team hosts first round of playoffs. (Rewards those teams that win those OOC road games.)
GEAUX TIGERS
- No independents (ND).
- High commitment to playing to be one of the 72.
Go back to 11 games (no need to kill these kids).
- Every conference plays 8 game conference schedule.
- Teams can only schedule a game with a lower division rent-a-win once every 3 years.
- Max of 6 home games for any team in a given year (makes teams look for attractive trips/neutral site games)
8-team playoff, open only to conference champions.
- Teams are not drastically punished for the aforementioned OOC road games.
- Higher ranked team hosts first round of playoffs. (Rewards those teams that win those OOC road games.)
GEAUX TIGERS
Posted on 9/23/13 at 5:40 pm to sportsaddit68
Simplest solution is to realign the top 80 teams as the FBS and drop the other 40+ back to FCS.
Require FBS teams to only play FBS teams and go forward from there. You get rid of the crappy matchups/rent-a-wins and those lower tier (bottom 40+) teams have a shot at an FCS championship.
Sucks for them, but makes the most sense logistically and makes an FBS NC legitimate.
Require FBS teams to only play FBS teams and go forward from there. You get rid of the crappy matchups/rent-a-wins and those lower tier (bottom 40+) teams have a shot at an FCS championship.
Sucks for them, but makes the most sense logistically and makes an FBS NC legitimate.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:48 pm to sportsaddit68
Big 12 goes away so they get split by all.
-------------------------ACC
WVU added
ND added
--------------------------SEC
-adds OU and Ok St
----------------------------Pac 12 adds
UT, Baylor, TCU and Ttech
-----------------------------Big 10 (who cares) but they add Kansas and KSU
that's four 16 team leagues. "Champ'nship"
Take two highest ranked from each of the four leagues
Bama
LSU
FSU
Clemson
OSU
Wisconsin
Oregon
ASU
plus add four at large teams that are BIG 4 Schools or Little league that have to play the 2nd ranked of each league.
So you can take a Boise type team that went undefeated to play BAMA
Boise vs
Bama
winner vs LSU beats Bama
LSU
Uga is next best behind bama LSU to play a different league's #2
UGA vs
FSU
winner vs UGA beats Clemson
Clemson
Akron of last year did good, they play Wisconsin
Akron
Wis
winner vs Wisconsin beats OSU
OSU
Michigan, somehow does well and plays ASU
Michigan
ASU
winner vs
Oregon. OREGON beats Michigan
Fairly, Acc lost to their at large school so the final four looks like:
LSU
vs
Wisconsin
UGA
vs
OREGON
-------------------------ACC
WVU added
ND added
--------------------------SEC
-adds OU and Ok St
----------------------------Pac 12 adds
UT, Baylor, TCU and Ttech
-----------------------------Big 10 (who cares) but they add Kansas and KSU
that's four 16 team leagues. "Champ'nship"
Take two highest ranked from each of the four leagues
Bama
LSU
FSU
Clemson
OSU
Wisconsin
Oregon
ASU
plus add four at large teams that are BIG 4 Schools or Little league that have to play the 2nd ranked of each league.
So you can take a Boise type team that went undefeated to play BAMA
Boise vs
Bama
winner vs LSU beats Bama
LSU
Uga is next best behind bama LSU to play a different league's #2
UGA vs
FSU
winner vs UGA beats Clemson
Clemson
Akron of last year did good, they play Wisconsin
Akron
Wis
winner vs Wisconsin beats OSU
OSU
Michigan, somehow does well and plays ASU
Michigan
ASU
winner vs
Oregon. OREGON beats Michigan
Fairly, Acc lost to their at large school so the final four looks like:
LSU
vs
Wisconsin
UGA
vs
OREGON
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:23 pm to sportsaddit68
I have been saying for a few years that the Big 12, Pac, Big 10, ACC and SEC needed to split off and form their own division AND only play each other.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:24 pm to sportsaddit68
I hate the idea of anything more than a four team playoff. Will ruin part of what is great about college football.
But if you're going to do it, go ahead and go with -
8 conferences of 16 teams each
Each team plays 9 conference games and 3 out of conference
Each conference has a championship game
16 team playoff with the 8 conference champions getting an automatic bid. Other 8 are at large.
There will have to be some set of rules for OOC scheduling. Maybe no more FCS teams? One OOC game can be an annual "rivalry" that the schools schedule or any other team they want to play. The other Two OOC games must cycle through the other six conferences every 3 years (ie acc and sun belt year 1, acc and PAC 16 year 2, big ten and American year 3....and the traditional opponent is say in the big 16). If a team doesn't want/have a traditional opponent they just have to make sure they play a team from one of the other 7 conference within the three year period.
But if you're going to do it, go ahead and go with -
8 conferences of 16 teams each
Each team plays 9 conference games and 3 out of conference
Each conference has a championship game
16 team playoff with the 8 conference champions getting an automatic bid. Other 8 are at large.
There will have to be some set of rules for OOC scheduling. Maybe no more FCS teams? One OOC game can be an annual "rivalry" that the schools schedule or any other team they want to play. The other Two OOC games must cycle through the other six conferences every 3 years (ie acc and sun belt year 1, acc and PAC 16 year 2, big ten and American year 3....and the traditional opponent is say in the big 16). If a team doesn't want/have a traditional opponent they just have to make sure they play a team from one of the other 7 conference within the three year period.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:35 pm to sportsaddit68
Emmert is horrible. He has zero credibility on the enforcement side and is playing the bait and switch game. He doesn't want us talking about players taking cash, so they float this crap out there to try to divert coverage.
If he had any nuts, Bama/Tennessee/MSU would be in trouble. But he doesn't and they won't be.
If he had any nuts, Bama/Tennessee/MSU would be in trouble. But he doesn't and they won't be.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 5:05 am to sportsaddit68
I think the stronger conferences should form their own division. I would just like to see the NCAA left out of it. Make the break.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:43 pm to sportsaddit68
LINK
Just a complete guess.
But the ACC did a fine job replacing their "loss" in Md.
The Big Least goes to Non AQ status and will be a nice mid-level conference to play non conference games with.
But the Big 12 is the weakest of all since no one likes, or trusts Texas.
Again, not the ideal scenario, but Microsoft paint is F U N!!!!!
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 4:31 pm to sportsaddit68
Put all the teams in & relegation to the worst teams to sub division
Posted on 9/24/13 at 4:58 pm to sportsaddit68
Preface- IMO NCAA idea of amateurism is a joke. CFB is a big business. Kill the charade and go all out with this idea.
They need to combine into a 40 team super league. Get the 40 best programs, however you want to define that. Forget conferences, set up regional divisions/pods/whatever. No rent a wins anymore. Last month of the season do regional championships, then semis, then the final. Can keep bowls (set up and run by the league, not 3rd party bowl clowns) for teams that dont make the tournament- more $$$
ESPN, CBS, FOX, NBC, would pay absurd money for a lean and mean (read not less games, just less weekends like last weekend) CFB regular season with a playoff system. They get more bang for their buck (why pay for Vandy just to get Bama?) and the teams drawing eyeballs get more $$$.
As a twist, set up relegation/promotion tournament for the other 60+ teams not in the super league. Have a set number of their best play an equal number of cellar dwellers in the super league. You suck (how much would it be to see USC or Texas have to fight for the super league status?), you dont get to keep cashing in the fat paycheck. Likewise you dominate your division, come play with the big boys and reap the rewards of the $$$.
They need to combine into a 40 team super league. Get the 40 best programs, however you want to define that. Forget conferences, set up regional divisions/pods/whatever. No rent a wins anymore. Last month of the season do regional championships, then semis, then the final. Can keep bowls (set up and run by the league, not 3rd party bowl clowns) for teams that dont make the tournament- more $$$
ESPN, CBS, FOX, NBC, would pay absurd money for a lean and mean (read not less games, just less weekends like last weekend) CFB regular season with a playoff system. They get more bang for their buck (why pay for Vandy just to get Bama?) and the teams drawing eyeballs get more $$$.
As a twist, set up relegation/promotion tournament for the other 60+ teams not in the super league. Have a set number of their best play an equal number of cellar dwellers in the super league. You suck (how much would it be to see USC or Texas have to fight for the super league status?), you dont get to keep cashing in the fat paycheck. Likewise you dominate your division, come play with the big boys and reap the rewards of the $$$.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 4:59 pm to sportsaddit68
The change I want to see in the NCAA is Emmert's resignation.
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