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WikiTiger
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If Tesla becomes a huge success, and redefines the automobile industry, do you think it would have a large enough impact on the oil and gas industry to put a signifant number of Americans out of jobs?


let's hope so






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weisertiger
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thanks prez.

Wiki, why in the hell would you hope to put Americans out of jobs?






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elprez00
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let's hope so

Why would you want a significant number of highly skilled, high paying jobs to be eliminated?






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Tiger in NY
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Great, now there's going to be signs, signs, everywhere there's signs





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WikiTiger
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The cars themselves don't use any fossil fuels, but the electricity used to charge its batteries comes from fossil fuel.


true, but energy production is way more efficient when done at a centralized location like a power plant. even transmission costs over the power grid don't negate the efficiency gains

Elon Musk discusses that point in this TED video: LINK






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HurricaneDunc
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If Tesla becomes a huge success, and redefines the automobile industry, do you think it would have a large enough impact on the oil and gas industry to put a signifant number of Americans out of jobs?


Think through how power is generated....natural gas.....

Also, gasoline is not the only product produced by a barrel of oil. In fact, it's a fraction at that.






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WikiTiger
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Wiki, why in the hell would you hope to put Americans out of jobs?


Because our goal as a species should be to push technology gains so much so that we don't have to work that much.

And energy is the key to do that.







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barry
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Because our goal as a species should be to push technology gains so much so that we don't have to work that much.


Is it?

You don't need technology to not work as much.

Wiki likes progress for the sake of progress regardless of its consequences.






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elprez00
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Because our goal as a species should be to push technology gains so much so that we don't have to work that much.








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weisertiger
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If people don't work, how will they earn money to buy things





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WikiTiger
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Wiki likes progress for the sake of progress regardless of its consequences.




Progress in efficiency of labor is necessary in order for us to pursue more challenging endeavors. If it still took 18 humans to produce food for 20 humans, then we wouldn't be as far along as we currently are. As it stands, due to technological advancements, it takes about 2 humans to produce enough food for 20 humans, which allows the other 18 humans to pursue other interests, like quantum physics or whatever. That is the kind of progress I am talking about.

And we need to see it in the energy sector, and everywhere really.

There's no need for humans to be doing work that isn't necessary.

To grasp the concept, read this article: Better Than Human: Why Robots Will — And Must — Take Our Jobs (it talks more about automation of tasks, but the concept applies to efficient energy production and use)






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WikiTiger
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If people don't work, how will they earn money to buy things


2 things:

1. Technology lowers costs. More efficient energy production and usage will lower the costs of things like transportation.

2. Lower costs means we can work less. As it stands now, we work less than we did 100 years ago. A 40 hour work week is relatively short for an agricultural species. I think that we'll see a 20 hour work week within the next 30 years, and maybe even less.



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elprez00
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Progress in efficiency of labor is necessary in order for us to pursue more challenging endeavors. If it still took 18 humans to produce food for 20 humans, then we wouldn't be as far along as we currently are. As it stands, due to technological advancements, it takes about 2 humans to produce enough food for 20 humans, which allows the other 18 humans to pursue other interests, like quantum physics or whatever. That is the kind of progress I am talking about.

I agree completely with you Wiki. But the problem with these technologies is that they are grossly inefficient and basically playing musical chairs with resources. We arent advancing, were just changing the packaging.

This is the problem with these startups. Were encouraging people to get free money for politically popular technology which does nothing to improve efficiency of provide any real replacement technology to fossil fuel based energy.

I'd be happier if my tax dollars were going to companies that were researching new battery tech that would make electric cars viable rather than to companies to make $100K electric cars that have a range of 60 miles.






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Bmath
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O/G isn't going away anytime soon. Regardless of better electric cars being made.

Most electricity is produced in this country by burning fossil fuels.

Also, petroleum is used for more than just fuel. Just think about that while you drink out of your plastic water bottle while driving down an asphalt road.






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Cracker
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Tesla didn't find an alternate source of energy, they just make expensive electric cars


THANK YOU!

if i hear zero emission one more time






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itawambadog
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Also can't forget these things are pretty expensive and a charge only gets you so far. It's more cost effective to just buy a traditional compact car.





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Shiftyplus1
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i don't see why this was even an issue.





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TheDiesel
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cost effective


Not a reason to buy a Tesla

eta: You can't compare a Tesla to some POS compact. The same way you can't compare a BMW to a Toyota Yaris.



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johnnydrama
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North Carolina car dealer's lobbyists apparently didn't throw enough money around.





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