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The Palestinians should never have embraced Hamas and allied with Hezbollah. There is nothing but pain, misery and bad actors there.

What do you mean by "embraced Hamas and allied with Hezbollah"? Israel created both of these groups which didn't exist prior to 1967. This is like blaming the French for embracing the Maquis during WWII or Black South Africans for embracing the ANC during apartheid. By the way, how do you feel about the Israelis embracing Likud?






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Where are the Israeli borders in your opinion?
I can tell you that they are not the borders reflected in the textbooks issued to children by the Palestinian Authority. I'm more inclined to accept whatever borders for Israel that Israel claims. Those borders are surprisingly similar to the borders pre-1967 War. The only territory annexed by Israel is parts of Jerusalem captured in the 1967 War and the Golan Heights also captured in the 1967 War. But then I've never denied being a believer in the adage to the victor go the spoils.






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The Israelis also claim much of the West Bank as their own. As a matter of fact, Naftali Bennett, one of Bibi's cabinet members claimed all of the West Bank a couple of days ago.

EDIT: Also, we both know that you only believe in the law of jungle when it benfits Israel and oppose it when it hurts Israel, so you can stop with the "victor goes the spoils" quote.



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. I'm more inclined to accept whatever borders for Israel that Israel claims


What a shock!

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Those borders are surprisingly similar to the borders pre-1967 War.


You have a link to this map of these borders?






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The Israelis also claim much of the West Bank as their own. As a matter of fact, Naftali Bennett, one of Bibi's cabinet members claimed all of the West Bank a couple of days ago.
Until Israel annexes territory it is not part of Israel despite the desires of a cabinet minister.

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Also, we both know that you only believe in the law of jungle when it benfits Israel and oppose it when it hurts Israel, so you can stop with the "victor goes the spoils" quote.
You are just plain wrong. I have never had a problem with countries gaining territory following successful military campaigns. When have you read anything written by me that cries for China to grant independence to Tibet? I have a problem with the hypocrisy that it became "illegal" as of an arbitrary date since many "illegal" border changes have been accepted by the international community after that arbitrary date.

I've said all along that countries are free to determine what they think are their national interests, but they have to be willing to accept any consequences. I don't care who it is. I will freely admit that some countries have more leeway than others because there are no other countries who consider it in their national interest to oppose said countries. As an example no countries feel stongly enough to stop Russia from seeking concessions from countries that were formerly republics in the U.S.S.R. Thus Russia can pretty much do what they want. The same is true for the U.S. if you haven't noticed.






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Until Israel annexes territory it is not part of Israel despite the desires of a cabinet minister.


Israel can't annex territory and have it recognized by the world, the US veto in the UN can't turn that trick for the Zionist criminals.






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Who said they were a problem? They are our ally and the only ally we can truly count on in the region.


The only ally we can truly count on to spy on us, sell our technology, and attack our troops.. that's what you meant, right?






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Israel can't annex territory and have it recognized by the world, the US veto in the UN can't turn that trick for the Zionist criminals.
That is true, but China can annex Tibet and have it recognized by the world. Where are your posts criticizing the illegal Chinese occupation of Tibet? I'll wait patiently for you to find one. The Chinese must be more special people than Jews since you don't care that they violate international law.






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That is true, but China can annex Tibet and have it recognized by the world. Where are your posts criticizing the illegal Chinese occupation of Tibet? I'll wait patiently for you to find one. The Chinese must be more special people than Jews since you don't care that they violate international law.










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That is true, but China can annex Tibet and have it recognized by the world. Where are your posts criticizing the illegal Chinese occupation of Tibet? I'll wait patiently for you to find one. The Chinese must be more special people than Jews since you don't care that they violate international law.

China doesn't depend on American financial, military and diplomatic support to pursue its agenda. There's nothing we can do about China's actions short of starting WWIII. Conversely, Israel would fold like a house of cards if Obama drew a line in the sand. No Israeli Prime Minister would defy an American President if he/she knew the President was serious since they depend on us for everything except the air they breathe.

Also, I don't believe the treatment of the Tibetans and Palestinians are comparable due mainly to the fact that China doesn't have a policy of ethnic cleansing and colonization in Tibet. Even in the West Bank, Israeli treatment of the Palestinians was somewhat benign at the beginning before Israel began settlement building.



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since they depend on everything except the air they breathe.








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That is true, but China can annex Tibet and have it recognized by the world.


The world does not recognize this but it is interesting that you do compare the Zionist entity to the Chinese communist government, they are indeed both violators of international law.

Within international law Tibet remains an independent nation under illegal occupation. As recognized by the US Congress:


“Whereas the United States should not condone aggression by accepting China’s claim to sovereignty over Tibet; Now, therefore, be it:

Resolved by the Senate (the House of Representatives concurring), That it is the sense of the Congress that Tibet, including those areas incorporated into the Chinese provinces of Sichuan, Yunnan, Gansu, and Quinghai, is an occupied country under the established principles of international law whose true representatives are the Dalai Lama and the Tibetan Government in exile as recognized by the Tibetan people”. (Emphasis Added) (Passed the Senate May 24 (legislative day, April 25) 1991).

The illegal nature of that occupation was also recognized by a conference of international lawyers which, apart from recognizing the “abiding desire of the Tibetan people for…the establishment of an independent Tibetan state”, also concluded that:


“Since the military action of 1949/50 Tibet has been under the alien occupation and domination of the PRC and has been administered with the characteristics of an oppressive colonial administration” . Emphasis Added. (Article 5.7 Conference of International Lawyers-Self-Determination and Independence for Tibet’ London 6th to 10th January 1993).


Similarly the world does not recognize Russian aggression in Georgia, Abkhazia and Ossetia are still recognized as Georgian by the international community.

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Where are your posts criticizing the illegal Chinese occupation of Tibet?


When posts are made by fools like you supporting Communist aggression I am sure you will see appropriate responses from just people that don't support crimes against humanity. There is a lot of injustice in the world, but pretty much only those queer on Israel support it in this forum.






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More bad news for Netanyahu. The new President is expected to surround himself with American-bred, non-clergy cabinet members.

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Several U.S.-educated Iranians are expected to be tapped for key posts in President Hassan Rowhani's new administration, hinting at a break from the antagonistic rhetoric of predecessor Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

The 64-year-old moderate cleric won an outright victory in June’s election, in which he was the closest thing to a reform candidate running to replace Ahmadinejad.

A sudden thaw in relations with the West is unlikely, most experts agree. But Rowhani's installation could mark the beginning of a more open government and lead to friendlier relations between Washington and Tehran.

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But y'all don't ever attack the Chinese like you do the joos you claim not to hate.





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Israel all up in trackfan's grill.





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Iran's new President has vowed that Iran will never build nuclear weapons ahead of his upcoming trip to the U.N. With the Syria war called off and the new Iranian President talking peace, Bibi must be one miserable man.
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Iranian President Hassan Rouhani vowed on Wednesday that his government will never develop nuclear weapons, his strongest signal yet that he may be seeking a diplomatic thaw with the West after decades of acrimony.

In an interview with NBC News days before he travels to New York for a U.N. appearance, the new Iranian president also insisted that he has "complete authority" to negotiate a nuclear deal with the United States and other Western powers.

"We have time and again said that under no circumstances would we seek any weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear weapons, nor will we ever," Rouhani said when asked whether he would forswear nuclear arms.

Rouhani's conciliatory comments appeared to be another sign of his willingness to work toward a diplomatic solution in Iran's bitter nuclear standoff with the West. Washington and its allies are intrigued but still wary, making clear they hope to see tangible steps to back up his words.

Speaking to the U.S. network at his presidential compound in Tehran, Rouhani said the tone of a letter he had received from President Barack Obama, part of a recent exchange of messages between the leaders, was "positive and constructive."

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Iran's new president has vowed they will never build nuclear weapons..





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Iran's new President has vowed that Iran will never build nuclear weapons
What a fool. They should be building them as fast as possible. Israel and her bitch, the USA, are just looking for an opportunity to kill these people at this point.






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CarrolltonTiger
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I swear a couple of these guys would be building large scale ovens given the chance.


Stop being silly. I don't think the Zionist want to kill all the Palestinians they just want them to be ethnically cleansed from greater Israel. A racist theocracy with the undermensch removed.






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You're disgusting.





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