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SI lays out good info on the recent scheduling problems in the SEC

Posted on 5/24/13 at 10:26 am
Posted by tlsu15
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 10:26 am
Posted by LSUDonMCO
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 10:36 am to
Makes too much sense. Obviously just LSU "Butthurt" fans disguised as objective national media. Keep the lights on and the roaches will have to scurry away.
Posted by CITWTT
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 10:43 am to
A well written article.
Posted by nitwit
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 10:45 am to
Even if Slive and the SEC never intended to favor Alabama, they do a great disservice to the conference (and Alabama) by creating a favorable path to the championship. Forget LSU for the moment, it hurts EVERYONE for the league to set itself up for claims of favoritism.
If Alabama finds itself in a close contest for any bowl, this issue will be resurrected.
This is adminsitrative malpractice in comnpetitive sports and creates the appearance of unfairness.
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:06 am to
Good article and the first I've seen that provides a decent context. Fairness is not possible. But there should be an attempt at balance. UGA/UT/USC/Vandy/Mizzou/UK should not visit Tiger Stadium once every 12 years.

The biggest issue I have is the bridge schedules, made with clear knowledge of how how competitive each team would be.

In 2012 they sat down knowing full well that USC and UGA were in all likely hood the top teams in the East. Same with Bama and LSU.

USC/LSU and Bama/UGA were scheduled to play under the old system.

What do they do? Bama plays Mizzou, UGA plays Ole Miss again. LSU/USC game on!

Same story in 2013.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:10 am to
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The biggest issue I have is the bridge schedules, made with clear knowledge of how how competitive each team would be.

No question. And why did a human have to create these schedules? Couldn't they program a computer to randomly assign cross-divisional opponents? Maybe the random result is the same but at least there wouldn't be the appearance of favoritism.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:18 am to
This issue is like everything else in sports, nothing changes until you get on the national media's agenda.

The cross division rivalries are unfair to LSU and florida (and SC lately), but thats all the more reason for the 12 other teams to favor it so nothing changes. This UT/Bama rivalry is a cop-out and Bama is using that to maintain their advantage.

What needs to happen is the non-sec teams need to take up the cause (now that they see Bama winning titles every year, even backing into a NC after losing to LSU). Other conferences need to get in the media's ear about the advantages the SEC offers Alabama. Without them we are outnumbered.
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:35 am to
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Other conferences need to get in the media's ear about the advantages the SEC offers Alabama. Without them we are outnumbered.


This. Also, shame Alabama to comply. Look at the comments and things on this message boards and articles. While that really doesn't amount to anything, it's an indicator.

Bama's won two national championships in a row and always in defense mode. It's pretty funny. Congrats on the NCG, but A&M and LSU could have gone 2-0 vs. Mizzou and UT. Congrats, nice avoidence of the SECCG and a mulligan.
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:36 am to
quote:

And why did a human have to create these schedules? Couldn't they program a computer to randomly assign cross-divisional opponents? Maybe the random result is the same but at least there wouldn't be the appearance of favoritism.


Because that could prevent the favortism.
Posted by 2geaux
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:39 am to
Perhaps Herb Vincent can help rectify this now that he is in the league office. Hey Herb, how about some home night games?
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:54 am to
Alabama requires Special Protection from The Birmingham Office. That's sacrosanct. We must not force Alabama to go out of their comfort zone. That would violate decades of turdition.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:13 pm to
the teams that play patsies will always vote to keep them.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:28 pm to
Will we ever get an answer as to why the original schedule last year had Bama opening up at Texas A&M, but it magically moved to Tuscaloosa later in the year. Bama had 4 home divisional game, and A&M had only two. Everyone else had a balanced 3-3 home divisional schedule.
Posted by fightingtigers98
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:29 pm to
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Bama's won two national championships in a row and always in defense mode. It's pretty funny. Congrats on the NCG, but A&M and LSU could have gone 2-0 vs. Mizzou and UT. Congrats, nice avoidence of the SECCG and a mulligan.

this is what bothers. yea they were probably the better team in 11-12, but LSU beat them in their house why would they have to play the same team again. Then you switch up the schedule and put the best teams from the east on Bama's top competition?
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

Will we ever get an answer as to why the original schedule last year had Bama opening up at Texas A&M, but it magically moved to Tuscaloosa later in the year. Bama had 4 home divisional game, and A&M had only two. Everyone else had a balanced 3-3 home divisional schedule.

i had never heard that, but that is so screwed up
Posted by 756
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:31 pm to
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Through no fault of Alabama's, the Crimson Tide have had an easier path to the SEC title game of late than West rivals LSU and Auburn.


It should read
Through the biased scheduling of an Alabama Alum,the Crimson Tide has had an easier path
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:32 pm to
Fair enough.
Posted by fightingtigers98
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:33 pm to
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Through the biased scheduling of an Alabama Alum,the Crimson Tide has had an easier path

this is also bs, get an unbiased person from someone outside the SEC network of schools.
Posted by lsusa
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:43 pm to
And unless I missed it this article completely ignores the bridge schedules which is the biggest problem.

That, and the decision to completely ignore a regular season game in 2011, were the biggest keys in adding two more tainted championships
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:52 pm to
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get an unbiased person from someone outside the SEC network of schools.


Look, even though it's flawed to some extent and I’m not trying to there, compare this issue what currently going on in politics and the administration--big picture.

For years, those criticizing the established were kooks, afraid, biased, etc., and dismissed. This is LSU, Spurrier, whomever. Outliers yelling into the dark.

Well, for certain reasons, the "mainstream" sports media (ESPN, SI, etc.) have begun to pick up on this issue which had previously never been discussed outside of SEC circles and seemingly the dominos could start to fall like in politics.

The next shoe to drop should be this connection. The ESPN/SIs are now saying "hey look, the SEC scheduling is pretty unbalanced and favors Bama." But they stop at that point. It's not Bama's fault.

Well, here we go. Bama gets an easier path by design? WTF? Look at who makes the schedules? Bama is forced to defend it, and the SEC is forced to defend it. Hell, we're pissed when and Ohio State or Pac 12 team has a free pass while playing 1 or 2 games a year. How would you feel if you're a non-SEC contender and effectively you have a Bama team that has a Pac 12 schedule but gets SEC cred? They're basically a lock and it is unfair.
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