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Why doesn't the NFL want to expand into Germany rather than England?
Posted on 5/11/13 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 5/11/13 at 9:27 pm
The Germans took to NFL Europe and by the time it got shut down almost every franchise had been moved to that country and they enjoyed pretty solid attendance for what it was.
I understand the reasons for broadening your sport internationally, but why wouldn't you start with the European country that actually took to your game in the first place when you were offering them a minor league?
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I understand the reasons for broadening your sport internationally, but why wouldn't you start with the European country that actually took to your game in the first place when you were offering them a minor league?
:inb4somelamegermansjoke:
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Posted on 5/11/13 at 9:30 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The Germans took to NFL Europe and by the time it got shut down almost every franchise had been moved to that country and they enjoyed pretty solid attendance for what it was.
I understand the reasons for broadening your sport internationally, but why wouldn't you start with the European country that actually took to your game in the first place when you were offering them a minor league?
because Roger Goodell is an incompetent count
Posted on 5/11/13 at 9:31 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/11/13 at 9:33 pm to Draconian Sanctions
There's this book called the History of English Speaking Peoples.
(and German clubs only got behind the teams that had Germans on the squad...the big complaint over there - we want our football teams to be German.)
(and German clubs only got behind the teams that had Germans on the squad...the big complaint over there - we want our football teams to be German.)
Posted on 5/11/13 at 9:35 pm to Zamoro10
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(and German clubs only got behind the teams that had Germans on the squad...the big complaint over there - we want our football teams to be German.)
I guess that's fair but shite shouldn't we be playing a game there every other year or something just to keep their interest up?
Posted on 5/11/13 at 9:36 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Even longer flight, DON'T SPEAK THE LANGUAGE, their colorful past, etc...
Posted on 5/11/13 at 9:38 pm to Draconian Sanctions
This is my personal take that I don't base on any scientific facts.
The Germans took to American football because they do not have much of a rugby scene. There is much more interest in Germany than England at the moment, but the reason why London is the target is probably purely financial. Television contracts and selling suites are likely more lucrative in London than Germany. I don't think Germans are the type of people who will be willing to pay top dollar to go to games, while Londoners might.
The Germans took to American football because they do not have much of a rugby scene. There is much more interest in Germany than England at the moment, but the reason why London is the target is probably purely financial. Television contracts and selling suites are likely more lucrative in London than Germany. I don't think Germans are the type of people who will be willing to pay top dollar to go to games, while Londoners might.
Posted on 5/11/13 at 9:38 pm to saintsfan22
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Even longer flight,
Not much longer
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DON'T SPEAK THE LANGUAGE,
Yeah that really stopped the Japanese from adopting baseball
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their colorful past, etc...
see previous
Posted on 5/11/13 at 9:41 pm to TheWalrus
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The Germans took to American football because they do not have much of a rugby scene. There is much more interest in Germany than England at the moment, but the reason why London is the target is probably purely financial. Television contracts and selling suites are likely more lucrative in London than Germany. I don't think Germans are the type of people who will be willing to pay top dollar to go to games, while Londoners might.
This is a decent argument I guess I just feel like at the very least we should be fostering that interest while it still exists. In another ten to fifteen years there will be a whole new generation of Germans who weren't even alive when NFL Europe was kicking. Why in the world would you, a sport with extremely limited appeal on the world stage, not do everything you can to keep that interest alive in a tentpole like Germany?
Posted on 5/11/13 at 9:43 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Not much longer
Longer than what's already long
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Yeah that really stopped the Japanese from adopting baseball
When did they get an MLB team?
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see previous
Not as colorful
Posted on 5/11/13 at 9:48 pm to saintsfan22
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When did they get an MLB team?
The difference though is they have a thriving league/baseball culture of their own. The NFL should be working to establish that kind of culture in Germany based on what we saw in NFL Europe. yeah a franchise is the endgame but they should be building over there they way they are building in England.
And Japan is twice as far away from the West Coast as Europe is from the east otherwise we would be seeing movements towards a couple of japanese MLB teams just like they did with the West Coast in the 50's with the Giants/Dodgers double move.
Posted on 5/11/13 at 9:49 pm to saintsfan22
...and after the US started the NFL International Series game in the UK...
Germany announced the creation of the Germany-Japan Bowl alliance in American football..,
"No country outside of North America has such a long and successful American Football tradition than Japan. President of the German American Football Federation (AFVD- American Football Verband Deutschland), Robert Huber said: "This game is an absolute highlight in the history of our federation. With Japan we will play against the second strongest country in the world."
Just saying...
Germany announced the creation of the Germany-Japan Bowl alliance in American football..,
"No country outside of North America has such a long and successful American Football tradition than Japan. President of the German American Football Federation (AFVD- American Football Verband Deutschland), Robert Huber said: "This game is an absolute highlight in the history of our federation. With Japan we will play against the second strongest country in the world."
Just saying...
This post was edited on 5/11/13 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 5/11/13 at 9:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The NFL should probably just drop the Europe pipedream all together
FIFY
Posted on 5/11/13 at 9:51 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I think your view makes a lot of sense. I especially think that it's much easier to gain popularity in a market that is not acclimated to rugby. If you take someone who watches soccer and have them watch Football, they might think it is interesting probably due to the novelty of the aggressiveness and tackling. If you take someone used to rugby, like my father, and have them watch football, they will think it makes no sense. Why do they have timeouts every second? Why do they have players who just play offense or just play defense or just kick the ball? Those are things Europeans I know say about football.
Posted on 5/11/13 at 9:51 pm to saintsfan22
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Longer than what's already long
that's his point. it's not too much longer, so that isn't an issue
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When did they get an MLB team?
MLB isn't playing games in china while ignoring the baseball fever in Japan, so that comparison isn't valid.
Posted on 5/11/13 at 10:00 pm to TH03
I do wonder if they have another word for blitz over there given the connotations lol:
Posted on 5/11/13 at 10:08 pm to Draconian Sanctions
it really does make little sense that they are so focused on England
pretty sure the London NFL Europe team was the first Euro team to move
pretty sure the London NFL Europe team was the first Euro team to move
This post was edited on 5/11/13 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 5/11/13 at 10:26 pm to Dr RC
Germans
Posted on 5/11/13 at 10:45 pm to Dr RC
The whole thing is silly. The weeks are too short and the travel too long. Teams bitch about playing back to back away games, they talk about west coast teams traveling to ETZ now. It's just too far and there is nothing wrong with that. Focus on Mexico or Canada if you MUST go international.
This post was edited on 5/11/13 at 10:47 pm
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