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reg469 
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 2:47 pm to Zoombop)
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Albert Breer ?@AlbertBreer Wow ... RT @MichelleBeisner: Per team source, Dumervil REMAINS a Denver Bronco!!!!
Dumervil stayed in Denver.
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whodatfan
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 2:52 pm to reg469)
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@AdamSchefter: Elvis Dumervil restructured his contract from a $12 million base salary to $8 million.
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@AdamSchefter: Elvis Dumervil deal also includes a $3.5 million guarantee on the 2nd day of league year in 2014.
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landrywasbeast30
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 2:56 pm to whodatfan)
I don't understand something. I wouldn't mind getting Victor Butler, but how is he any more proven than Gallete and Wilson? And they are younger. I thought the idea was to get a veteran who could fit in a rotation and help them learn. I just don't understand why everyone is so desperate to sign an unproven potential guy to take the place of the 2 unproven potential guys we already have.
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Suntiger 
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 3:07 pm to landrywasbeast30)
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I thought the idea was to get a veteran who could fit in a rotation and help them learn.
Probably familiarity with scheme. Butler played for Ryan in the 3-4 in Dallas. I don't think Gallete has ever played in a 3-4 and Wilson was a 3-4 ILB at Illinois, but has been a 4-3 OLB & DE in the NFL.
And Butler has been pretty good when he's got a chance to play.
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bigcobra
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 3:26 pm to Suntiger)
Shefter tweet
Elvis Dumervil's contract not filed with NFL in time. Dumervil released, as Denver Post released.
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bigcobra
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 3:26 pm to bigcobra)
weird.
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Brageous
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 3:27 pm to bigcobra)
OH YEAH COME ON DOWN TO NOLA DUMMMMMMIIIEEEEEEEVIL!
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bigcobra
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 3:31 pm to Brageous)
@Jeff_Legwold: Dumervil's release gives #Broncos huge dead money hit. Limits ability to bring him back with a "new'' deal
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bigcobra
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 3:31 pm to bigcobra)
btw, i don't know who the frick jeff legwold is.
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bbrownso 
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 3:34 pm to bigcobra)
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@Jeff_Legwold: Dumervil's release gives #Broncos huge dead money hit. Limits ability to bring him back with a "new'' deal
Just saw this:
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?@AdamSchefter Elvis Dumervil contract snafu accelerates $3.25 million in salary-cap room.
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bigcobra
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 3:37 pm to bbrownso)
Well that is certainly a fine damn mess. I'm calling bull shite that there a problem sending the fax.
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whodatfan
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 3:38 pm to bbrownso)
He fricked Denver. 
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bigcobra
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 3:38 pm to whodatfan)
PFT Article
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landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 3:40 pm to Suntiger)
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And Butler has been pretty good when he's got a chance to play
Exact same thing could be said about Galette and Wilson.
As far as Galette and Wilson not having experience, just about every player that gets switched to 3-4 OLB never played that position. I get that Butler is familiar with the system, but that doesn't change the fact that he is unproven just like the 2 guys we already have.
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bbrownso
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 3:46 pm to landrywasbeast30)
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As far as Galette and Wilson not having experience, just about every player that gets switched to 3-4 OLB never played that position. I get that Butler is familiar with the system, but that doesn't change the fact that he is unproven just like the 2 guys we already have.
And I bet Butler will cost less than the 8 million Dumervil was going to get from Broncos before this mess.
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Dr.Bob
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 4:01 pm to bigcobra)
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I'm calling bull shite that there a problem sending the fax.
That's my instinct too, but I can't think of what his incentive would be. He could accomplish the same thing by just simply refusing to agree to restructure his salary. Actually, had he given Denver the advanced notice, they may have restructured someone else's contract (doubtful).
Going this route intentionally just makes him and especially his agent look bad. I can't imagine his agent would agree to this tactic.
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bigcobra
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 4:08 pm to Dr.Bob)
Yea. I hear what your saying. But it just seems like such "dog ate my homework" excuse.
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Dr.Bob
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 4:10 pm to bigcobra)
Ha, definitely. Pretty embarrassing if true.
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AmosMosesAndTwins
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 4:18 pm to bigcobra)
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the fax.
Seems like they'd have a more reliable way to do this.
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Suntiger
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| re: Whose next? Butler or Dumervil likely targets (Posted on 3/15/13 at 4:19 pm to landrywasbeast30)
First you say Gallet and Wilson are younger, then you say we need veteran leadership. Which is it?
And I'm just suggesting those are the reasons. Maybe Ryan knows he's a coach on the field. Maybe he likes the guy, I don't know. But those reasons are plausible.
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