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re: Better player: 26 year old Scottie Pippen or 31 year old DWADE

Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36448 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:00 pm to
Good thing d wade has never had any injury issues
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278013 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:02 pm to
Exactly. Pippen couldn't carry a team offensively like Wade could. That's what separates them.

I don't care if he could guard 4 positions. You can't play that type of defense when you have to lead a team on your own.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22095 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:04 pm to
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The point is he never could do anything without Jordan.
Wrong again
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You used his age as an excuse and it's a poor one. It's not that hard to follow, is it?
It shouldnt be. I said Pippen, IN HIS PRIME, was better than Wade.

33 was not in Pippen's prime.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22095 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:07 pm to
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I don't care if he could guard 4 positions. You can't play that type of defense when you have to lead a team on your own.
First, when Wade actually led a team on his own they were picking top 5 in the lottery the next year.

2nd, do we actually have to go through a list of dominant scorers who also played great defense. There are plenty.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278013 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:10 pm to
Question; do you think Pippen guarded 4 positions without MJ next to him? Do you think he was able to put forth the same effort defensively while trying to carry the team offensively?
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:11 pm to
I'm shocked to see that people think a fading Wade is better than a prime Pippen.


Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278013 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:15 pm to
A fading wade...lol. He's averaging 22ppg on 52% shooting. Did Pippen EVER do that?

Ha... Fading
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29852 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:16 pm to
Not to mention he has Lebron James and Chris Bosh on his team. He would obviously score more if that weren't the case.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:22 pm to
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The point is he never could do anything without Jordan.


Ok but what has Wade done without Shaq or Bron???

Look I like wade his game is SIC but he is not even at pippens level when it comes to a defender.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8621 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:23 pm to
Pippen and it ain't close!
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22095 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:25 pm to
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Question; do you think Pippen guarded 4 positions without MJ next to him? Do you think he was able to put forth the same effort defensively while trying to carry the team offensively?
Thats the point. He had one year to try, in his prime, IN HIS PRIME, and he did it.

Both of these guys are great great players. Give me Pippen though, thats all. No minds will be changed here, obviously.

Plus get back to me when Wade plays after getting golf ball implants:



BOOM! Case closed!
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29852 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:26 pm to
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Look I like wade his game is SIC but he is not even at pippens level when it comes to a defender


Wade guarding the sg position isn't that far off from Pippen guarding the SF position. Yeah, Pippen could guard everyone, but the Heat don't even need Wade to do that. And honestly, do you really think Pippen is on Wade's level offensively?
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:37 pm to
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And honestly, do you really think Pippen is on Wade's level offensively?



He is closer to wades offense than wade is to pippens D. Pippen could light it up, yet he didn't have to. Wade MUST light it up for any team he is on to win.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37132 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:48 pm to
26 yr old Pippen >>> 31 yr old Wade

As far as being a Robin to an All Star (Batman)
Pippen > Wade

If I had to start a team around one
Wade >>> Pippen

Better overall player
Wade > Pippen
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278013 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:56 pm to
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Look I like wade his game is SIC but he is not even at pippens level when it comes to a defender.




PJ, i dont care how good of a defender he was.

Wade isnt a slouch himself. Prob one of the top 2 best help side defenders in the league himself. He's made all defense teams.


The thing is, the offensive comparions arent even close.


DWades top 5 PER seasons

30.4
28.9
28.0
27.6
25.6



Pippens top 5 PER seasons

23.2
22.6
21.5
21.3
21.0



Are you at least smart enough to realize that is not even on the same planet?
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22364 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:59 pm to
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Wade carried a team to a title. Pippen never could by himself and he had some chances


give pippen shaq and he probably could have.
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
202457 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:17 pm to
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DWades top 5 PER seasons 30.4 28.9 28.0 27.6 25.6 Pippens top 5 PER seasons 23.2 22.6 21.5 21.3 21.0


This means NOTHING............ I don't care how many PPG Pippen had. HE IS THE BETTER overall player.
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Are you at least smart enough to realize that is not even on the same planet?



Well to be fair. Since I have seen both play IN THEIR PRIMES.....You are the one that doesn't look very smart here.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278013 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:23 pm to
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I don't care how many PPG Pippen had. HE IS THE BETTER overall player.



That's not PPG; That is PER- player efficiency rating!!! you dumb frick.


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Well to be fair. Since I have seen both play IN THEIR PRIMES.....You are the one that doesn't look very smart here.




put down the budweiser. Major fail.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29852 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:26 pm to
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give pippen shaq and he probably could have.


Yeah, Pippen only had that Jordan fella..... and the fact that Wade carried that Heat team to an NBA title with Shaq on it instead of Shaq carrying it says a hell of a lot.
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
202457 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:28 pm to
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and the fact that Wade carried that Heat team to an NBA title with Shaq on it instead of Shaq carrying it says a hell of a lot.



So the Heat could have won it without Shaq????? Think about what you are saying...........
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