Revenue per patient in a doctors office?

I would think the numbers are highly dependant on the operating environment. (Social economic status of patients, intention of lead physician etc)

Just finished an article in WSJ (Friday's). Obamacare will result in more doctors switching from independent status to that of an employee. Thus, doctors may form a union.

I have hear Medicaid pays $29 per patient, and may soon only pay $27.

My doctor bills me $65 for an OV. Don't know what the insurance company pays.

Per patient is not a factor. Per visit is what matters. In primary care, the docs that are doing really well collect on average $200+ per visit. The docs that are scraping by but making a living are collecting around $120- $130 per visit.
The docs collecting less that $100 per visit are making less money than your plumber and in more debt that you can imagine.

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It totally depends on which insurance the patient has. Noway does a psych make $4 on a Medicaid patient. That's simply not true.

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This is absolutely possible. He most certainly collects more that $4 on the patient, but it is completely within the realm of possibility that his profit on this visit is $4.

I can see how he'd only net $4 for a Medicaid visit, counting overhead (nurses pay, front desk pay, office lease, etc). The revenue from a level 3 follow up visit is probably 30 bucks, maybe 40 tops or so for a Medicaid patient.

It's definitely not worth your time.

Just read the prior post about per visit vs. per patient. I assumed you were asking the question as counting a "patient" as a visit.

If you were looking to buy a practice based on total number of patients, I'd say that metric would be way down on the list on what you would measure profitability on. The two metrics I'd be most interested in is total number of patient visits/year, and the distribution of the payer source (ie % private insurance vs Medicare vs Medicaid).

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Revenue per patient in a doctors office? Per patient is not a factor. Per visit is what matters. In primary care, the docs that are doing really well collect on average $200+ per visit. The docs that are scraping by but making a living are collecting around $120- $130 per visit. The docs collecting less that $100 per visit are making less money than your plumber and in more debt that you can imagine.

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That's what I meant actually. Per patient visit. Thanks. Great info!

I don't think union, rather cooperatives. Places like urgent care will sprout

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Everyone realizes that doctors have no say in what they are paid right?

It's all done by the government and insurance companies

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In MOST (not all) cases, the reimbursement for individual codes are dictated by the providers contract with the government programs or insurance companies. However, the doctor certainly has a say in how they choose to practice medicine, which has a tremendous impact on their reimbursement and income.