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Dire Wolf 
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:09 pm to NathanL)
I have that baseball championship poster hanging on my wall 
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AHouseDivided
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:10 pm to Baloo)
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It was the Peter Principle in action.
1st time I've ever seen it applied to a football coach. Good analysis.
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Kunka
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:12 pm to dgnx6)
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Second, you are completely false. Spurrier took his name out of contention
No I'm not. Spurrier was meeting with Skip Bertman 2 days before the Capitol One Bowl. I know it came down to Miles and Petrino but Spurrier was in the running until Skip told him they were going in a different direction.
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Kunka
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:14 pm to Tommy Patel)
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Guy Sajer FS
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:14 pm to SammyMarley)
Curley Hallman was the only coach in the history of the game to defer NOT ONLY the opening kickoff, but he deferred in the SECOND HALF ALSO!!! Maybe he thought he could save all of them for later in the season, but, I have no idea why he did that.
Not just worst coach at LSU, maybe the worst coach in the history of the SEC.
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los angeles tiger
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:15 pm to Baloo)
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I do think Archer was in over his head, but 1986-87 are the two best years LSU had in a 30 year span
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He was the coach for our best two seasons in a 30 year span
Baloo, in 1986 (9-3) Arnsparger was the head coach and his previous year, 1985, LSU finished 9-2-1
Archer's first year was 1987 (10-1-1)
Archer's second season 1988 we finished 8-4, then 4-7 in 1989 and 5-6 in 1990.
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nicholastiger
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:15 pm to Kunka)
If that's the case the NFL rumors with Saban started before he took USCe job - he could have waited.
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Paul Allen
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:15 pm to SammyMarley)
Nick Saban
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Gridiron61
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:16 pm to Duckman13)
Mike Archer also had a quaterback by the name of Tommy Hodson who was a Heisman Trophy Finalist!!
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JawjaTigah
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:19 pm to SammyMarley)
Worst 1 - Curley Hallman
Worst 1.a - Mike Archer (seasons 3 & 4)
Worst Assistant 1 - Lou Tepper
Worst Assistant 1.a - Malveto
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MountainTiger
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:20 pm to alajones)
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Curley Hallman.
Is this even debateable?
It's probably the only thing that the entire Rant can agree on.
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tiger perry
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:20 pm to SammyMarley)
Curley Hallman
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Baloo
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Baloo, in 1986 (9-3) Arnsparger was the head coach and his previous year, 1985, LSU finished 9-2-1
Archer's first year was 1987 (10-1-1)
Archer's second season 1988 we finished 8-4
So the same record, but Archer managed a 10-win season and an SEC title in those two years. Arnparger won one SEC title as well (1986). I'll take Archer's first two years over Arnsparger's last two.
And I do think Arnsparger is the better coach, but we accomplished more under archer's peak.
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clamdip
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:26 pm to Baloo)
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then why didn't Arnsparger ever win 10 games?
Because Arnsparger didn't win his bowl games, mainly against Nebraska, whereas Archer was lucky enough in 1987 to face an outmanned USCe team.
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I do think Archer was in over his head, but 1986-87 are the two best years LSU had in a 30 year span. Not two best consecutive season, two beat seasons, period. And Archer was the coach for it. He gets SOME credit for that.
Arnsparger was the coach in 1986 (SEC Champs), not Archer
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He was the coach for our best two seasons in a 30 year span.
Again, you're giving the credit for the wrong year to Archer.
Arnsparger:
1984 - He takes LSU from WINLESS in the SEC under Stovall in 1983 to an 8-2-1 record and a date with a very good top 5 Nebraska team in the Sugar Bowl.
1985 - 9-1-1 and a lame assignment with Baylor in the Liberty Bowl. Another bowl loss (yes, not cool). Missed out on SEC championship by a hair.
1986 - 9-2, SEC CHAMPS, get whipped again by a very good top 5 Nebraska team in the Sugar Bowl.
[18 WINS OVER 2 SEASONS]
Archer:
1987 - Takes Arnsparger's players and goes 9-1-1 and beats USCe in bowl game. 10 wins. Congrats.
1988 - 8-4 including an embarrasing bowl loss. Recruiting falling off the map. Team looks undisciplined most of the time.
[18 WINS OVER 2 SEASONS, like Arnsparger, but the trend is not his friend...]
1989 - 4-7.
1990 - 5-6. Talent gap between LSU and SEC contenders is huge. (Gary Pegues, white DBs, Sol Graves, etc.)
Archer couldn't carry Arnsparger's jock.
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Random LSU Hero 
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:26 pm to alajones)
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Curley Hallman.
Is this even debateable?
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los angeles tiger
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:27 pm to Baloo)
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So the same record, but Archer managed a 10-win season and an SEC title in those two years. Arnparger won one SEC title as well (1986). I'll take Archer's first two years over Arnsparger's last two.
And I do think Arnsparger is the better coach, but we accomplished more under archer's peak.
Under Arnsparger, we went 8-3-1 in his first year (1984) and should have been named SEC champs that year since Florida was put on probation and we went to the Sugar Bowl as the SEC champ. LSU was 4-7 in 1983 and 0-6 in the SEC in Stovall's final year. In 1985 Tennessee won the SEC, but lost to Florida (on probation) and finished with a 5-1 SEC record as did Florida.
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Keys Open Doors 
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:28 pm to MountainTiger)
Hallman is obviously the answer. The guy is so worthless he was fired from his high school job and was recently a gym teacher for elementary school students. Dead serious.
The only thing I don't understand is how coeds would ever sleep with that redneck 
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clamdip
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:30 pm to Baloo)
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So the same record, but Archer managed a 10-win season and an SEC title in those two years. Arnparger won one SEC title as well (1986). I'll take Archer's first two years over Arnsparger's last two.
yeah, and I'd take Larry Coker's first year over Nick Saban's. Big deal. Fact is that Arnsparger handed Archer the keys to a fine machine and Archer ran it off a cliff.
I'm pretty confident Arnsparger would have done at least as good as 10 wins in 1987 with the same schedule (including bowl assignment).
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HeadBusta4LSU
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:42 pm to Duckman13)
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Lou tepper- "It takes players 5 years to learn my system"
Man he was an idiot
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Minnesota Tiger
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 2:44 pm to clamdip)
I agree with clamdip. Curley may well have been the worst coach in our past, but he clearly did not destroy the program. Dinardo simply had to pick the bike up out of the ditch and begin riding it to consecutive bowl game seasons. Curly left him a lot of talent.
There are programs out the that are really struggling to get out of the ditch- CU comes to mind.
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