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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN

Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:12 am to
Posted by OrangeBlood
Austin
Member since Sep 2005
800 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:12 am to
I agree on all points - the Big12 still needs a couple more top 15 type football programs to offset what is perceived as an "OU/Texas" league (hell, let's be honest, after the last couple years, an "OU" league).
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
2345 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:14 am to
If they stick with 14 and don't change the scheduling model to a 9 game schedule 5th year seniors wouldn't even play every team in the conference in a career.

From a money standpoint its good, but the league was more cohesive and the scheduling was easy and made more sense at 12.

Luckily the SEC is going to go to 16, and the scheduling models are better than the current system.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19306 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:20 am to
quote:

I agree on all points - the Big12 still needs a couple more top 15 type football programs to offset what is perceived as an "OU/Texas" league (hell, let's be honest, after the last couple years, an "OU" league).


If you get the four schools that are the most rumored you get everything you could want.

FSU is a top 15 program which gives Texas and OU another major opponent.

Clemson is a solid addition, on the lines of a rising Oklahoma State.

Louisville wants in the Big 12 and would give West Virginia a nearby rival.

Georgia Tech can be competitive, but what they bring most is academic cred (which got hurt when A&M bolted).
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19306 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Luckily the SEC is going to go to 16, and the scheduling models are better than the current system.


Correct.

If you stick with two divisions, you would have to scrap the permanent rival format but you could play two teams from the other division each year (and in four years swap home-and-home arrangements).

If you went to a four-division, four-team per division alignment, you could do three permanent rivals and play the remaining three divisional opponents over six years home-and-home.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125376 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Rutgers said yes before delany could finish the question


congrats bro
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125376 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:31 am to
quote:

The ACC deal with Notre Dame was a joke, giving away the store with no benefit. not surprised to see teams heading for the exits.


the ACC got played by ND
Posted by Muahahaha
Ohio
Member since Nov 2005
5942 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:32 am to
quote:

tOSU faithful, what's your feelings on reshuffling the divisions now?


I think that this move was inevitable. With the super-conference taking shape, the B1G is trying to get who they can before the choices are taken.

The B1G is heavy on academics and will only add school that are AAU.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15316 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:38 am to
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The B1G is heavy on academics and will only add school that are AAU.


Does Rutgers qualify?

Serious question.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19306 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:38 am to
quote:

The B1G is heavy on academics and will only add school that are AAU.


What are you hearing about fan interest in the B1G trying to get a foothold in the South and picking up Georgia Tech?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125376 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Does Rutgers qualify?


not sure if

o wait

quote:

Serious question.


yes Rutgers is an excellent school
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19306 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Does Rutgers qualify?

Serious question.


Rutgers is an AAU member. So on that basis alone, yes.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
21913 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:39 am to
quote:

So the acc will be at 15 after this move..
how so?
Just looking at football: Currently at 12, losing Maryland, and gaining Syracuse and Pitt...that moves it to 13.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15316 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:40 am to
Does that classification speak to the quality of academics?

Basically, are they in line with the supposed Big Ten academic qualifications?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125376 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:43 am to
quote:

Does that classification speak to the quality of academics?



did you go to tOSU?????????????
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94615 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Does that classification speak to the quality of academics?

Basically, are they in line with the supposed Big Ten academic qualifications?


Yes, AAU status is an academic status and is in line with the Big Ten academic qualifications.

They also have to be approved by the Big Ten universities plus the U. of Chicago, IIRC, because Big Ten membership means getting to be part of a major research collective.

Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:46 am to
To add to the financials. The ACC paid out $14 million in TV last year. The Big Ten paid $24 and is projected to pay $30 million by adding Rutgers and UMD. Even if it pays $28 million, UMD is doubling its TV revenues, a bonanza for a school in financial trouble. I do think their longterm prospects are better than people think, but that requires a stable conference, which the ACC ain't.

The SEC should be quietly talking to UNC and VT to go to 16. That would kill the ACC. Kill it.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94615 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:47 am to
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The SEC should be quietly talking to UNC and VT to go to 16. That would kill the ACC. Kill it.


I don't think that UNC will go to the SEC. They would want Duke to come with them and probably look down their nose at SEC schools' academics.

NC State, however, may be willing to play ball.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125376 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:47 am to
quote:

The SEC should be quietly talking to UNC and VT to go to 16. That would kill the ACC. Kill it.



we both know VT is stuck unless UVA moves

they will end up rotting away in the ACC
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:51 am to
A lot of people are really upset that Maryland cut 7 sports less than a year ago and now has $50M to drop out of the ACC
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21092 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:53 am to
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Posted by StraightCashHomey21 quote: Rutgers said yes before delany could finish the question congrats bro


Thank you.

Beat lville in 2 weeks and a big ten invite and first bcs bowl in the same year.

Never thought i'd see the day.
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