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VABuckeye
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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN

I agree. Just messing with him.

I didn't realize until yesterday the impact on cable subscribers of having a B1G team in their market vs not having a team in the market. It's about 8X the money in the pockets of BTN.


SadSouthernBuck
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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
1.45 EST news conference to announce Rutgers joing the B1G.


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nicholastiger
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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
Does the DC and New York market really give you more exposure - those are professional towns that swallow up any real college broadcasts


VABuckeye
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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
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Does the DC and New York market really give you more exposure


1) Tons of B1G alums in those areas.

2) It doesn't matter if they tune to the channel. If the provider carries the BTN and there is a B1G team in the market the BTN gets 8X the money (give or take).


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Feed Me Popeyes
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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
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it would be if it was remotely true, the extra cost of the BTN would be minimal in some sports package and there will be an SECN soon as well.


uh, inside much (or all?) of the current Big 10 footprint, the BTN has managed to get on basic cable. Thus, everybody with basic cable is paying for it. That's not the same as it being "in some sports pacakage" (which is where the BTN is currently in my viewing area). I see no way around the eventuality I'm going to be paying for BTN in the future if I want to keep ESPN, TBS, etc. Like I said - Big Ten tax

And by the way, an SECN will not end up on basic cable in Maryland. Not a good comparison.

I'm not sweating the couple extra bucks...honestly I just resent where it's going to go


StraightCashHomey21
West Virginia Fan
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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
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those are professional towns that swallow up any real college broadcasts



no true

they have plenty of football fans on the college level but many do not back the local school


Muahahaha
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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
Gene Wojciechowski best sums it up.

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The Big 14 (and counting) Ever play "Risk?" It's a board game (remember those?) where the object is to conquer the world. It's a lesson in strategy, geography and choosing your battles. The Big Ten looked at the college football (and basketball) map and realized it was in danger of being outflanked. So it rolled the bones and added Maryland on Monday and Rutgers on Tuesday. The Terrapins and Scarlet Knights aren't sexy choices, but they're effective ones. True, there is nothing Midwestern about the two newest members of the Big Ten. They're the plaid shirt to the Big Ten's striped pants. But this wasn't about finding the perfect eHarmony date. It was about finding the perfect safe harbor. Rutgers and Maryland give the Big Ten geographical protection. They give the conference entry into the New York and mid-Atlantic cable markets.


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The Big 14 (and counting), Part II Think of the Big Ten as Five Guys. It just opened a franchise directly across the street from McDonald's (the ACC) and Burger King (the Big East). In essence, the Big Ten just told the ACC, "You want to brawl, we'll brawl." It told the Big East, "We didn't start this, but we'll finish it if we have to." The expansion and realignment arms race has begun again. The Big Ten had watched the ACC use the Big East as its own personal chop shop and decided it had to act. It couldn't allow Penn State to be isolated by ACC members Boston College, Pittsburgh and Syracuse (and maybe UConn soon enough). The ACC's alliance with Notre Dame certainly had an effect on the Big Ten's strategy, as did the collapse of the Big Ten/Pac-12 collaboration. There's a turf war going on in college sports. It is survival of the fittest and right now, the Big Ten, ACC, SEC, Pac-12 and, OK, the Big 12 look pretty healthy. The Big East? On its last legs.
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H-Town Tiger
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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
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inside much (or all?) of the current Big 10 footprint, the BTN has managed to get on basic cable. Thus, everybody with basic cable is paying for it.


how much? a few cents at most probably.


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That's not the same as it being "in some sports pacakage" (which is where the BTN is currently in my viewing area


What's your viewing area? It won't be on basic cable in SEC states. Say it's a B1G tax is like saying there is a Lifetime tax or whatever, the cost per channel, espeically for stuff like that is minimal.

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And by the way, an SECN will not end up on basic cable in Maryland. Not a good comparison.


Who cares? The B1GN won't end up on basic cable in Louisiana or Alabama or Florida.



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teke184
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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
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inside much (or all?) of the current Big 10 footprint, the BTN has managed to get on basic cable. Thus, everybody with basic cable is paying for it.




how much? a few cents at most probably.


I don't remember the exact rates, but it's something like $0.03 per subscriber for a state without a Big Ten team and significantly more, like $0.20 per subscriber, for a state like Ohio or Michigan with a Big Ten team.

$0.20 per subscriber adds up quickly when you're talking about large cable systems in New Jersey and Maryland.


VABuckeye
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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
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Who cares? The BTN won't end up on basic cable in Louisiana or Alabama or Florida.


Pretty big difference in the number of households between the NJ/NY/Maryland/DC markets and those you mentioned.


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VABuckeye
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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
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I don't remember the exact rates, but it's something like $0.03 per subscriber for a state without a Big Ten team and significantly more, like $0.20 per subscriber, for a state like Ohio or Michigan with a Big Ten team.

$0.20 per subscriber adds up quickly when you're talking about large cable systems in New Jersey and Maryland.


From what I've read it's the difference between $0.10 a subscriber and $0.80 a subscriber if there is a team in the market. 8X the money adds up in a hurry especially when you look at the population base.


Muahahaha
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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
The realignment cycle's next spin

Good insight from Schlabach.


Bunk Moreland
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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
SIAP.

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Whether anyone watches is irrelevant. Conferences used to chase eyeballs. They still do only now it doesn't matter if the eyeballs are even open. The genius of the Big Ten Network (or any cable channel like it) is it is essentially a Big Ten tax.

The passion of the Superfan, who actually may watch, forces providers to make every cable home in a state dole out maybe 50 or 75 cents a month to the conference, whether or not they know a football is inflated or stuffed.

Nearly every citizen is essentially taxed for living in a state with a Big Ten athletic department. Big programs like to boast they're self-sufficient and don't use public money that goes to the general university, but this is an end-around that accomplishes the same thing.

You don't pay on April 15 via the state. You pay every month via Comcast.

It's genius. It's absolutely fabulously genius. So genius the Pac 12 is now trying it, the SEC is going to try it and the University of Texas is trying it all by itself (with few buyers thus far, though).

It's genius unless home entertainment goes a la carte one day, but you won't see that concept in the revenue projections.

Dan Wetzel.


Feed Me Popeyes
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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
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The genius of the Big Ten Network (or any cable channel like it) is it is essentially a Big Ten tax.


holy shite I swear I came up with "Big Ten tax" on my own



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Interception
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Member since Nov 2008
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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
SEC will end up with a 16 Team Conference

Adding: Va Tech and North Carolina in the SEC East w/ Missouri moving to the SEC West makes the most sense.

I don't see the member schools allowing Clemson or FSU in the SEC.








StraightCashHomey21
West Virginia Fan
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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
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Adding: Va Tech and North Carolina


so much would need to happen for this to go down


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hiltacular
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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
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I didn't realize until yesterday the impact on cable subscribers of having a B1G team in their market vs not having a team in the market. It's about 8X the money in the pockets of BTN.



If the B1G convinced GT to jump ship. they would have an incredibly wide TV market.


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