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re: Why do civilians own "assault weapons"?

Posted on 7/21/12 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 3:48 pm to
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there are very few civilians who own automatic weapons

this is very true and they are difficult and expensive to obtain.

I don't own one or want one for that matter.

They chew through ammo too fast.
This post was edited on 7/21/12 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 3:50 pm to
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P.S. many handguns used for self defense are "automatic"

Uh, no.
Posted by BarDTiger81
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Member since Jul 2011
15639 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 3:52 pm to
I see y'all have had a nice little discussion in my absence.
Posted by BarDTiger81
nurfeast lowsyana
Member since Jul 2011
15639 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 3:53 pm to
Anchors away.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 3:57 pm to
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What you fail to understand is that to the firearm enthusiast the OP is the ignorant arse.

Not really, I think the OP's question was completely legit.

You ignorant/defensive motherfrickers just trolled yourselves.
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
3947 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 3:58 pm to
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It's a safety issue for me, guns are very loud and over time could cause hearing damage. Yes, I use earplugs and even the battery powered hearing muffs but it's annoying when I could have a device that would make the headgear unnecessary.


While I agree I may be able to answer that.

I have a friend that is a SWAT team leader and he told me they use suppressors to differentiate between team members fire and that of perps.

I don't know if that's really a good answer, but it is interesting
This post was edited on 7/21/12 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 4:03 pm to
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I don't know if that's really a good answer

It's not.

So many different types of guns and suppressors out there, the possibility of of a SWAT team member's rifle matching the sound of a perp's firearm is miniscule at best, even with similar suppressors.

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but it is interesting

yep.
This post was edited on 7/21/12 at 4:05 pm
Posted by pooponsaban
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
13494 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 4:22 pm to
Sound suppressors eh? I'm sure you were being funny but they have earplugs and muffs for that. But I agree we should be allowed silencers. What business of the government is that? And while I don't the automatic weapons are necessary and are not effective in a militia situation, why can't we have them? Where is this invisible line? I want a fricking flame thrower. In a short blast it painfully kills attackers with minimal property damage. The government gets 40% of money to pay for the others. I pay that price for the liberties afforded by our Constitution. They can eat a dick with the particulars.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 4:38 pm to
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I'm sure you were being funny but they have earplugs and muffs for that.

Did you even read my post

Additionally, the earplugs and muffs can only help so much. Suppressors can reduce the decibel level far below the protection level earplugs offer.

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What business of the government is that?

I don't have a problem with them knowing I have a suppressor. They already know I have guns.

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And while I don't the automatic weapons are necessary and are not effective in a militia situation, why can't we have them?


Huh?

You can have them.

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Where is this invisible line?

Well, I don't think civilians should be allowed to have militarized tanks or jets for obvious reasons.

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I want a fricking flame thrower. In a short blast it painfully kills attackers with minimal property damage.

trolling I hope, I don't know the law on flame throwers but they are extremely dangerous to the operator.
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The government gets 40% of money to pay for the others. I pay that price for the liberties afforded by our Constitution. They can eat a dick with the particulars.

okay


Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20356 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 4:40 pm to
ok I'm wondering if my hot .45 acp reloads would have gone through his armor?
Posted by SneauxTiger
Smyrna, TN
Member since Jan 2005
161 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 4:49 pm to
"Assault weapons" are defined by the military not common law definition. DOD--Assault is the climax of an attack, closing with the enemy in hand to hand fighting.COMMON LAW--Assault is an intentional act by one person that creates an apprehension in another of an immense harmful or offensive act. In common law, assault can encompass any imaginable weapon, pencil, fist, etc. In the military, it is a part of a battle scenario. Little bit different, don't you think? So, I guess your question has merit, in the civilian world.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81559 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 5:02 pm to
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Not really, I think the OP's question was completely legit.

You ignorant/defensive motherfrickers just trolled yourselves.
Posted by jtiger123
Member since Nov 2007
341 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 5:04 pm to
Uh yes. Since he kept using automatic to refer to semi automatic, then my statement is correct. Ever heard of Glock?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81559 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 5:11 pm to
Oh boy...
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22630 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 5:43 pm to
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For some, myself included, guns are fun to shoot, collect, clean, and take care of.

For me, it's a form of recreation and entertainment.

You could call it a hobby.

I'm not so much into killing animals unless they are a hazard (poisonous snakes, nutria rat, coyotes).

I don't even feel like I need a gun to defend myself but I can understand why others would.

The AR-15s, AK-47s, and other assault rifles are convenient for a sporting shooter such as myself.

When I go shooting, I usually shoot a lot so the high capacity magazines, affordable ammunition, and the semi automatic feature of the rifle is beneficial.

Moreover, assault rifles are not nearly as deadly as most standard hunting rifles that are designed to kill large animals.

Whereas a semi automatic assault rifle is designed to wound a man.

See the video below.

The Truth About AK-47 Firepower

Here is my analogy:

A top of the line baseball bat is to baseball what a top of the line AR-15 is to the sporting shooter.

Yes, the baseball bat is lethal weapon, but in only the rarest of cases (self defense) would I ever consider using it that way.

I know this is anchored but you made a very good post
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 5:49 pm to
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I won't be paying a second visit here


Is this supposed to make people sad ??
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 6:30 pm to
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I know this is anchored but you made a very good post

Thanks man, I'm kinda surprised they anchored it.
This post was edited on 7/21/12 at 6:30 pm
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