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Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:05 am
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26413 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:05 am
For all those that have built homes, currently building a home, or work in the industry what is some advice you would give to someone about to begin the process? (INB4 don't do it.)
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179315 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:06 am to
what are you looking to do? Build a house without a general contractor?
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7387 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:16 am to
If you are trying to do it without a contractor, expect to be out there most of the time.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10735 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:27 am to
What size/ level of amenities you looking to achieve? Are you looking for a general contractor to sub this out for you, do it yourself, or buy from a builders inventory? Do you have plans, a lot your looking at?
This post was edited on 6/25/12 at 9:34 am
Posted by LSUtiger09
Member since Dec 2009
749 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:34 am to
If you have to ask, you're not ready for the challenge..!!
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:35 am to
quote:

If you have to ask, you're not ready for the challenge..!!
Thank god most of us grew up knowing how to do everything already.
Posted by ScottieP
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2004
1933 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 9:50 am to
Take your time with the plans. Cross all the T's and dot all the i's.

Here are a few things you may not think of that bit us.

1)Look over the electrical plan. Adding recess cans and switches later will cause you to go over budget.

2) If you plan to have the front loader washer and dryer, add room in the laundry room for them. They stick out alot more then the standard units and you have to account for swing doors.

3)Also think about how you are going to do window treatments. Alot of people like arched windows, but if you plan to do wood blinds they don't work so well. You either need to get plantation shutters (which are $$$) or hang drapes. Ask the wife now what she wants it will help down the road.

4)Pre wire, Pre wire, Pre wire. If you are an electronics freak. Wire for speakers even in rooms you may not want speakers in now. Whole house systems are cheap if things are prewired. Also think about running Cat 5 or Cat 6 from a computer room to the TVs. sure wireless is good but hardwire is better for not that much more $$$. Run hdmi or componant cables to an outdoor Tv for HD outside. Definitly do a security system even if you never plan to get coverage. Its like $500 to pre wire the house and install the key pads.

From one Crusader to the next hope this helps.

Also subbing it out yourself can be done, but get good subs and expect to spend alot of time on site.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26413 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 10:03 am to
quote:

What size/ level of amenities you looking to achieve?
4 bedroom, 3-3.5 bath. Anywhere between 2200-3000sf would be my guess. We just have the lot at the moment. It is a corner lot in a suburb area. We have begun to look at other houses in the area to see what we like. Luckily the neighborhood has multiple new constructions.
quote:

Are you looking for a general contractor to sub this out for you, do it yourself, or buy from a builders inventory?
We are really open to all ideas, which is one of the reasons I came here. Doing it yourself with subs sounds like a pain in the arse after talking to people. I have some connections in plumbing, lighting, roofing, and flooring fwiw. I am in a totally unrelated field of work and inexperienced with construction
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 10:29 am to
quote:

We are really open to all ideas, which is one of the reasons I came here.


having someone to manage the jobsite, subcontractors and understands the permitting/inspection process is a huge benefit. The key is laying out a formal submittal/approval process along with a clearly defined way to process draw requests and invoices (assuming you're carrying the construction loan). You don't want to find out that 70% of your budget has been spent and the house isn't even 50% complete.



Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22655 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 10:59 am to
We are pouring the driveway this week. Personally, there is no way I would have the amount of time needed to be at the site. It took me about a week to realize that hiring a general contractor was the best decision for me. Unless you are doing something that is very unique, I wouldn't waste $$ on an architect. Most home designers have designed something very similar to what you are wanting to do. I'm not an electronics guy, but I did have them run cat 6 to a few rooms and also had them put in pulls to all other rooms in case I wanted to add it in the future. The best advice I can give is to spend lots of time scrutinizing the plans. That way you aren't faced with too many suprises during the build.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46380 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 11:00 am to
Spend the extra money on spray foam insulation and proper A/C for the spray foam...
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10735 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 11:21 am to
I would iron out your plans and amenities you want then go shopping for a general contractor/ custom builder then. They should be able to give you a good idea on cost at that point.

Whoever you find to manage the construction may or may not want to work with your subcontractors, so that's definitely worth mentioning while your looking for a GC.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10735 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 11:24 am to
I'd stay away from spray insulation, but Definatley upgrade your r-value and do a loose fill with a netting on the walls. Batt insulation collapses easily. The spray, if done wrong can be a complete nightmare, to the extent the it will actually rain inside your attic. Also, use a tech shield (or similar product) for your roof decking to create a radiant barrier.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 12:07 pm to
First off, whatever you prequalify for have lender put 25k less than you intend to spend. Important when negotiating with builders.

I 2nd the tech shield, used LP version and every sub working out there has commented its the coolest house they've ever worked, despite the temp. It's an amazing product.

Ask to see all suppliers "builder's grade" selections before you sign a contract. It's amazing what you can pick from before they get contract vs after.

Make sure you have all fixtures in writing on contract (tubs, sinks, faucets, lighting, hinges, doorknobs, etc...) If you want Kohler tubs in biscuit color and Moen bronze faucets, put it in contract as "no exceptions". Builders like to use terms like "equivalent" for fixtures, and that is where they cut.

A trick I use is putting recessed lights over all bath vanities, looks better than stupid bar sticking out your wall and doesn't eat up lighting budget on a ugly fixture.

Over prewire as mentioned, making sure you include ceiling fans in all initial drawings wherever you may want a ceiling fan. I have 3 cable outlets for living room alone, nice during football season when using multiple TV's.

10 foot ceilings are about a dollar more per square foot than 9, and will pay for themselves the first few years alone in A/C bills, especially here in south. 10 foot is the new 9 foot.

Make sure you are clear about baseboards/crown. If you do hardwoods over 4" use engineered, not sand and finish.

Soft close cabinets in kitchen and bathrooms. 36" counter height in all bathrooms. Schluter systems in every bathroom no exceptions. Walls and floors. Elongated toilets.

Get appliance allowance and buy online, AJ Madison, for example, will ship to your door free and no taxes. Saved almost 3 grand over builders supplier prices.

If you drive SUV's go with 9 foot garage doors vs 8 foot.

Brick as much as possible, especially steps. Cement fiber is good but brick is better. Stay away from vinyl anything.

Crawl is better than slab foundation.





This post was edited on 6/25/12 at 12:09 pm
Posted by FriscoKid
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2005
5202 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 12:44 pm to
Whats the average time frame for completion? Say you have the lot but no plans, permits, or contracts. Just curious, thanks
Posted by PrivateJoker
BR
Member since Jun 2012
817 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 12:53 pm to
Rabalais Homes.



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Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 1:25 pm to
Get a good set of plans.

So that Contractors bid apples to apples.
Posted by LawLessTyGer
Bay of Ponchartrain
Member since Jan 2009
1266 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 2:33 pm to
Add 30% to whatever they quote you....
Stay on their arse, if not you will have shoddy work..
Inspect everyday and ask questions...
Don't befriend them, it will cost you more $$$

Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22655 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 2:53 pm to
We are projected to be about $6-7k over budget. We started 2/9 and should be finished end of July.
Posted by FriscoKid
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2005
5202 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

We started 2/9 and should be finished end of July.


is that just construction or design and construction? And depending on the budget 6-7K doesnt seem to bad.
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