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Serious, non-hating question about JJ vs JL--really
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:45 am
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:45 am
A difference I've seen in our first 8 games with JL and the last few with JJ has been that under JL we seemed to break the huddle and just run the play. Rarely did we set, then look to the sideline for signals.
Under JJ we seem to do that much more frequently, and it is reminiscent of last year's offense (except more productive this year).
Does anyone know what the reason for this is? Is the JJ (run option) offense one that requires coaching reads of the D that the QB can't do?
This is not a comment on either QB's ability, because I don't know enough about the details of what they are doing to reach such a conclusion. But it is definitely a difference in how our offense runs, and I was curious whether any of you have a (real) explanation for this.
Under JJ we seem to do that much more frequently, and it is reminiscent of last year's offense (except more productive this year).
Does anyone know what the reason for this is? Is the JJ (run option) offense one that requires coaching reads of the D that the QB can't do?
This is not a comment on either QB's ability, because I don't know enough about the details of what they are doing to reach such a conclusion. But it is definitely a difference in how our offense runs, and I was curious whether any of you have a (real) explanation for this.
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:46 am to DadFanAlum
JJ is a different type of QB, the offense is going to be different. They allowed JL to check out of plays but apparently most of the time they do it for JJ.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:49 am to DadFanAlum
JJ is much more adept at reading sophisticated defensive formations and making audibles to adjust formation and playcalling scenarios in response to defensive tendencies shown at the line. Think Peyton Manning at the line. 
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:52 am to DadFanAlum
we ran an entire series of the no-huddle "check with me" with Lee in at QB vs. WKU. it's just something the coaches like to break out from time to time.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:52 am to DadFanAlum
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A difference I've seen in our first 8 games with JL and the last few with JJ has been that under JL we seemed to break the huddle and just run the play. Rarely did we set, then look to the sideline for signals.
Wrong. I watched the Oregon game last night and JL did it the entire game.
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Does anyone know what the reason for this is? Is the JJ (run option) offense one that requires coaching reads of the D that the QB can't do?
I would imagine the coaches are reading the defense (not the QB's like the fans think) and either checkign to a pass or a run the opposite way.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:54 am to Mo Jeaux
It seems like the two posts above--Hulkklogan & Mo Jeaux--are saying opposite things, unless I'm reading more into it than is there, which is definitely possible.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:56 am to DadFanAlum
<JJ is much more adept at reading sophisticated defensive formations and making audibles to adjust formation and playcalling scenarios in response to defensive tendencies shown at the line. Think Peyton Manning at the line.>
This is the most amusing line on the site.
This is the most amusing line on the site.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:57 am to DadFanAlum
The JJ playbook is the Lee playbook plus a bunch of plays that involve the QB running. More possibilities means more for the OC to look at before deciding the optimal play call.
We weren't going to check into an option play with Lee no matter how open it might have been.
We weren't going to check into an option play with Lee no matter how open it might have been.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:57 am to Mo Jeaux
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JJ is much more adept at reading sophisticated defensive formations and making audibles to adjust formation and playcalling scenarios in response to defensive tendencies shown at the line. Think Peyton Manning at the line.
This cant be a serious post? JJ/Peyton Manning??????
JJ is not even adept at getting to his 2nd option!
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:58 am to Mo Jeaux
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JJ is much more adept at reading sophisticated defensive formations and making audibles to adjust formation and playcalling scenarios in response to defensive tendencies shown at the line. Think Peyton Manning at the line.
What you talkin bout Willis
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:58 am to Mo Jeaux
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Think Peyton Manning at the line.
Thanks dude for the laugh of the day.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:59 am to DadFanAlum
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Rarely did we set, then look to the sideline for signals.
I don't think this is the case. I re-watched the Mississippi State game recently, and Lee looked to the sidelines several times. I do think it's very interesting that the perception is that Lee rarely does it while Jefferson always does.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:59 am to bighead7
it's sarcasm folks.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:06 am to ATLTiger
Obvioulsy must be sarcasm.
I do agree with the poster who stated Lee also does it but in watching games Lee seems to do it at times JJ pretty much the entire game.
I do agree with the poster who stated Lee also does it but in watching games Lee seems to do it at times JJ pretty much the entire game.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:29 am to Rudy40
according to Danielson, Alabamas defense makes more changes at line of scrimmage than anybody else. LSU can really screw with them having 4 weeks to prepare and line up in various formations and then change the formation after they make their checks. Will be a ton of cat and mouse at the los for this game.
This post was edited on 12/7/11 at 10:30 am
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:27 am to DadFanAlum
The NCAA should outlaw receiving signals from the sideline after lining up. Call it the anti Meerkat rule.
It is a stupid offense and I doubt that it helps the offense any, especially when you consider the talent level that we have and the results we get. I think that it gives the defense more time to adjust to your personnel. If you think about it, it is probably easy to guess what the OC is going to call when you already know the defensive lineup he is looking at.
It is a stupid offense and I doubt that it helps the offense any, especially when you consider the talent level that we have and the results we get. I think that it gives the defense more time to adjust to your personnel. If you think about it, it is probably easy to guess what the OC is going to call when you already know the defensive lineup he is looking at.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:31 am to km
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<JJ is much more adept at reading sophisticated defensive formations and making audibles to adjust formation and playcalling scenarios in response to defensive tendencies shown at the line. Think Peyton Manning at the line.>
This is the most amusing line on the site.
I almost feel out my chair laughing.
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