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re: ESPN - Shady's Bar employees: "Victims threw first punch"

Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48329 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

Can someone please give me a plausible reason that these 4 people would clearly single out JJ as the one who hit them for no reason?


It's only been two.

One is completely toxic at this point.

The other has some significant connection with him.


I really want to know what the other three told police.
Posted by GeuaxPhish
Saint Augustine Beach, Fl
Member since Oct 2008
174 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

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pretty much every bar or restaurant that serves alcohol has pretty strict no-drinking on the job policies.
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and a no cocaine and marijuana policy too
Posted by Tino
:yawn:
Member since Dec 2004
86225 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

Can someone please give me a plausible reason that these 4 people would clearly single out JJ as the one who hit them for no reason? It's not like JJ has lots of money and it's not like he is going to, so please explain that to me?


b/c he got shite stomped after starting crap with football players...what better way to get revenge than to try and get the starting qb arrested?
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9397 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:21 pm to
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Peak and Neldare also noted that while Lowery was apparently arguing with the unidentified woman inside the bar, Jefferson, who was wearing sunglasses, walked past them as if he did not notice the argument or know either Lowery or the woman. Jefferson then hugged another young woman before walking outside, shortly before Lowery left.

queue the deal with it gifs
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32016 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

BRPD


Does it bother anyone else that guilbeu had the sense to talk to the door manager but the cop who arrived at the scene didnt?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56491 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

"noticed Jefferson, standing by himself and looking upset while the fight was still taking place." #LSU


Now. This should confirm it. We all have seen this
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7638 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:22 pm to
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where he then noticed Jefferson, standing by himself and looking upset while the fight was still taking place. "I'm not saying (Jefferson) wasn't in the fight. I'm not saying he was, but I did see him standing alone while stuff was still going on," Neldare said.



Maybe this is why we hear someone hollarin jordan 5-0 jeff jeff 5-0 he wasnt by the fight and they was tryin to get his attention?
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26315 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:22 pm to
updated original post with AP article, new stuff
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48329 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

As an attorney would Shadys have any liability in a civil suit?


Probably not. But there is a chance. Shady's doesn't own the property, though.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:22 pm to
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Does anyone know if the blonde girl in the video is the said ex girlfriend of lowery's? Just wondering if the ex girlfriend has come forward to tell her side. Sorry if it's already been said I might have just missed it.

The ex isn't blonde, she's brunette, dark complected.
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8582 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:22 pm to
Neldare, however, said fighting involving Lowery had already begun when the truck pulled up sharply to the edge of the melee. "That truck stopped right in the middle of the whole altercation," he said. Neldare said he had gotten a good look at the beginning of the fight after jumping in the back of a co-worker's pickup truck to get a better view, but his attention was diverted when he saw a fellow employee walking toward the fracas. Neldare said he ran to the co-worker and corralled him away from the brawl, back toward the bar entrance, where he then noticed Jefferson, standing by himself and looking upset while the fight was still taking place. "I'm not saying (Jefferson) wasn't in the fight. I'm not saying he was, but I did see him standing alone while stuff was still going on," Neldare said.
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where is that from??
Posted by EWE TIGER
Houma
Member since Sep 2009
924 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

Can someone please give me a plausible reason that these 4 people would clearly single out JJ as the one who hit them for no reason? It's not like JJ has lots of money and it's not like he is going to, so please explain that to me?


I haven't heard that the other 3 singled out jj. But the one who has, the marine, his ex-girlfriend was "friends" with JJ.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

Peak and Neldare also noted that while Lowery was apparently arguing with the unidentified woman inside the bar, Jefferson, who was wearing sunglasses, walked past them as if he did not notice the argument or know either Lowery or the woman. Jefferson then hugged another young woman before walking outside, shortly before Lowery left.



queue the deal with it gifs


I have to have one
Posted by Elcid96
Member since May 2010
5465 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

I really want to know what the other three told police.



Thanks.

Do you see what I was getting at?

We don't know what Lowery said during his interview at the station as well.



Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22261 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

Can someone please give me a plausible reason that these 4 people would clearly single out JJ as the one who hit them for no reason?


That's a good question. One theory being floated around was that JJ was the most recognizable LSU face in the crowd, thus his name was more easily offered up to the police.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28351 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

dreaux


I have a similar sentiment. But I'll take it farther.


If the story is true that a punch happened in the bar, then the "victims" waited outside for the players to leave, that (to me) is pre-meditated. They were looking to ruff shite up. But they messed with the wrong crowd. They got exactly what they deserved...broken bones and all. If someone is waiting for me to fight, I will do everything I can to render him harmless, including kicking him on the ground. You don't like it? Don't frick with me anywhere for any reason. I don't play by rules when someone is waiting for me to engage in a fight. frick 'em.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47810 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:25 pm to
Andrew Lowery's dreams

Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
14251 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:25 pm to
Would that surprise you? Really? Given what we know about this guys background?
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
3561 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

That's a good question. One theory being floated around was that JJ was the most recognizable LSU face in the crowd, thus his name was more easily offered up to the police.


I just don't buy this. Sorry, but it seems a little too convenient, especially with the girl standing right next to him in the video. I think from 1 foot away, the girl would at least know who kicked the guy.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15604 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

Elcid, arguing this with Antonio Moss is pretty pointless. Like many, he has made up his mind that this is all Lowery's doing and not another person has any fault.


You aren't making a very convincing argument.
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