this is what pisses me off about the bcs

Judge a team by how they play, not who they play. BCS conference elitism (and money) is what is driving the non-AQ conferences to revolt. You will never be able to say "they don't deserve it" unless and until there is a playoff to prove it. The scoreboard don't lie.

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Just because TCU and BOISE go undefeated, does not mean they should automatically get in the NCG?

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They have NEVER got in the championship game and wont this year. Why are you so pissed? The BCS sucks, have a playoff!

BTW, there is only one thing that pisses me off about the BCS. The voters. They begin the season with this ranking matrix in their heads. Most of this is based upon the end of the previous season despite the fact that we are now dealing with different personnel. Teams get moved around within this matrix based upon wins and losses, but the matrix never changes despite the fact that the original placing may have been WAY off to begin with. OK, I'm done.

I guess I should say this again. The reason that TCU and Boise St. are getting real consideration this year is because they're 33-3 and 34-1 respectively over the last three seasons. And in the last 5 years they've beaten teams like Oklahoma, Oregon, Oregon State, Virginia Tech, and Baylor.

The consideration is reward for consistent winning, with some marquee victories mixed in. If teams like TCU, Boise St. and Utah never beat BCS opponents, they wouldn't be part of the discussion.

The problem people have, and it's a legitimate one, is that the "BCS" conferences complain that other conferences' teams don't play their schedules, but that's largely because BCS teams refuse to schedule these teams or invite them into their conference.

If BCS schools had their way there would be 4 subdivisions of Div 1 (BCS,FBS,FCS, 1-AAA aka non football) instead of the current 3.

Its easy to say oh they don't play quality games every week but then again how many BCS auto qualifying conference teams actually do either?

Also why should Boise or TCU have to play essentially 9 away games to justify their worth to a bunch of teams and their voters who want to exclude them regardless to allow their teams to horde the money, fame, and mythic championships? I guarantee a majority of BCS schools will not do a home and home with either of those schools, so why should TCU or Boise have to accept playing a majority of their games at the other schools home stadium to prove anything?

Essentially the question should be who is really ducking whom?

Texas should really consider allowing TCU into the Big 12. What's worse one more Texas school to recruit against in conference, or suddenly recruiting against the rest of the Big East plus their current competition?

TCU and Boise State don't schedule better teams because they don't want to lose. They don't even have conference championship games. Like the fellow above said, it is their own fault if they don't get respect; they don't deserve a shot a team like LSU.

The more people read about a playoff system, the less they enthusiastic they get.

Your argument is a thinly veiled plea for LSU to play for the BCS title, but no matter how awesome the win was last Saturday, does LSU really deserve to be there?

Do you think if LSU played Auburn another 9 times that the outcome would be substantially different?

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Just because TCU and BOISE go undefeated, does not mean they should automatically get in the NCG?

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This is why we should not have preseason polls. If that were the case I don't think you would have this issue. Also, the human element always takes into effect the previous years team. What else can you base the rankings on?

Playing in the conferences they play in with the weak arse schedule's they play, they should only be allowed into the BCSNCG if there are only 2 loss teams left. Then, I would say they should play. There is NO WAY TCU or Boise St being undefeated should be ranked ahead of any one loss team from a real conference.