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Doc Fenton
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You know, you might be right but I am referring to the fact that he so often misses open people by huge margins.


Every QB does this, even in the pros. It just gets remembered a lot more easily when you're frustrated with the offense.






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Choctaw
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Not his fault he is inaccurate.


He had the second highest comp.% in the SEC last year. Care to take a guess what Lee's was in '08

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Not his fault he pouts.


Jesus

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Not his fault he gets sacked after ample time in the pocket.


Lee had half the number interceptions as Jefferson has sacks. Let that sink in for second.

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Not his fault he looks lost half the time.


Now you're just reaching

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Not his fault he looked like shite in his JR season spring game (even though lack of running game didnt apply)






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Doc Fenton
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he's up and down in this regard. sometimes he does a pretty good job.


He's pretty good about this when he rolls out, imo.






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OBUDan
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Not his fault he is inaccurate.


He's not.

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Not his fault he gets sacked after ample time in the pocket.


Not always ample time.

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Not his fault he looked like shite in his JR season spring game


Meh.







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TIGRLEE
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He had the second highest comp.% last year. Care to take a guess what Lee's was in '08


tough on those 4 yrd throws huh.?

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Lee had half the number interceptions as Jefferson has sacks. Let that sink in for second.

thats like saying Id rather have herpes than the clap. let it sink in for a second.

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Now you're just reaching

you ever give a thought of WHY he took so many sacks?
Ill go out on a limb here and say maybe it was b/c..... HE DIDNT KNOW WHERE TO GO WITH THE frickING FOOTBALL

wonder why he looked so bad last month then?
just curious... I know it was JUST A S.G,... but still, he had same opp to look great as he did to look like shite.






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OBUDan
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He's pretty good about this when he rolls out, imo.





Yeah, for the life of me I don't understand why the pocket wasn't moved a ton last year.

He was 10x the QB outside of the pocket, but we rarely did any of it, particularly against Florida.






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LSUKAT
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spot on....





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chilge1
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. I know it was JUST A S.G,... but still, he had same opp to look great as he did to look like shite.


His two most experienced WRs in that game were a true sophomore with 11 catches and a player with a cast on his hand and he was throwing against what is considered an elite secondary. By the season's end, it wouldn't be outlandish to predict them to be tops in the SEC and highly ranked nationally.






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Doc Fenton
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Yeah, for the life of me I don't understand why the pocket wasn't moved a ton last year.


Crowton, Crowton, Crowton...






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Sammobile
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He had the second highest comp.% last year. Care to take a guess what Lee's was in '08

tough on those 4 yrd throws huh.?


yea not really

Yards Per Attempt:

Matt Flynn('07):6.71

Jarret Lee('09):4.93

Jordan Jefferson('09):7.32



eta: Lee in '08 :6.92




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Choctaw
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thats like saying Id rather have herpes than the clap. let it sink in for a second.


Are you seriously saying a sack and an interception are equally bad?

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you ever give a thought of WHY he took so many sacks?
Ill go out on a limb here and say maybe it was b/c..... HE DIDNT KNOW WHERE TO GO WITH THE frickING FOOTBALL


I'll go out on a limb and say it was the o-line considering he had a high competion % and passer rating.






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LSUKAT
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re



Thank you for all that break down of statistics
of our offense/defense of 07 vs. 09.......
I would hope that some of our coaches have broken it down like you have, and therefore
can begin to fix it.

Great job.






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TIGRLEE
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His two most experienced WRs in that game were a true sophomore with 11 catches and a player with a cast on his hand and he was throwing against what is considered an elite secondary


if drops were the concern Id agree with your post 100%....but on a scale of 1-10 (1 being most important)drops were a 9.
Face it... he gave us little to be excited about going into 2010 with him under center again.

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By the season's end, it wouldn't be outlandish to predict them to be tops in the SEC and highly ranked nationally.

going from worst to first huh?? ... I suppose we just have different defenitions of what outlandish means.






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RobbBobb
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OBUDan

You went to a lot of trouble, when you could have just said "The running game was less effective because of 8 in the box, as a direct result off JJ not getting rid of or connecting on the deep ball."

No defense respects his deep ball, so expect to see more of the same this yr.






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Johnson & Johnson



don't forget Helms






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OBUDan
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tough on those 4 yrd throws huh.?


I'm confused.

Where did this perception that JJ only attempts short throws come from?

His YPA is higher than Flynn and Lee. Do you know what YPA is?






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OBUDan
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Sammobile


I don't think he knows what YPA is.






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TIGRLEE
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Are you seriously saying a sack and an interception are equally bad?


when you can not extend a defense with the ability to throw the ball down the field and you are in 2 and 3rd and longs much of the time... YES it is equally as bad.

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I'll go out on a limb and say it was the o-line considering he had a high competion % and passer rating.


dude.....

I give... you win.






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Sammobile
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OBUDan

naw i think TigerLee is just seeing what he wants to see








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TIGRLEE
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You went to a lot of trouble, when you could have just said "The running game was less effective because of 8 in the box, as a direct result off JJ not getting rid of or connecting on the deep ball."

No defense respects his deep ball, so expect to see more of the same this yr.


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