re: For parents with teenage sons taking supplements for athletics.

quote:

---

I didn't believe it was correct and continued to try to find what was causing the "interference". I took so long the ER doc came to the lab. I told him what was going on and he said the guy had ate half a can of creatine and he believed the 32 result. Guy had essentially dissolved his kidney.

---

Did his bench PR go up?

Ask your Dr if he is vaxxed, if he is and is against the creatine, it's most likely safe as can be. If he says go for it and vaxxed, stay away.

The key is to not listen to morons.

quote:

---

Creatine does cause water retention, which could bump him up in weight class. I'd just stick to protein at his age.

---

This is great advice. High school wrestlers will do some crazy stuff to cut weight and he won’t want to drink enough water. He should just do the protein powder and remember to work on his grip strength in addition to all the training he’ll do at school.

Creatine adds mass and requires lots of water to stay hydrated.

These do not necessarily jive with wrestling

Find a gym that has an Olympic lifting program. He doesn’t need to supplement for wrestling if he is in a good program. He needs to eat clean and make sure he consumes 1.5-2 times the recommended grams of protein a day. His body is maxed on testosterone at 14. It will turn the protein into muscle if that’s what you want. We powerlifted and won state titles. Diet had little to do with it unless you were heavy and needed to cut weight before a meet. Supplements don’t make you strong.

go to pubmed, search for creatine. filter results for review papers. read a bunch of stuff. scan results to see if any papers are tailored to pediatric population. health board is better than this board and will waste less of your time.

if he wants creatine just cook him red meat every week

Creatine has been researched and studied and deemed very safe for adults. I am not aware of studies on early teenage boys.

Everything is risk/reward.

So, what is the reward for a 14 year old wrestler in regards to how it will impact his life. I would say virtually no reward that is worth anything.

Let him lift, increase protein intake and calories and let nature run its course at this stage in life.

quote:

---

My son is 14, 8th grade wrestler who's asking about taking creatine.

Does anyone have experience with their kid on it, do the benefits outweigh the risk? What kind of outcome did he have while taking it?

Kid is already in great shape with a high stamina level. He's been wrestling for 4 years now.

Thanks. I've looked at studies, and most I've seen are pretty vague. Unfortunately, I just don't know much about supplements.

---

if you think the studies are vague you did not look at them

there are no risk that come from creatine other than they need to hydrate more. Now with cooler weather is the prefect time to start them. The only other down side is if you have kidney disease that is pre existing.


creatine is literally the most studied supplement on the planet. It has show significant ability to affect positive change in the brain, in muscle growth and strength.


my personal opinion is every human being and even every animal on earth should be taking it. but especially males once they become a teenager.

but let me ask you a question...does your 8th grader lift weights? if not then from an athletic standpoint creatine isnt really needed. From a mental standpoint...yes they should.

your kid should be lifting weights starting on a linear progression program once they reach tanner stage 4( armpit hair). they should start lifting the min they begin to play sports but they will have to take it much slower because until they reach tanner stage 4 their ability to stack on muscle and strength is diminished where most strength gains will come from neuro efficiency gains.


as far as the outcomes...your kid will become stronger, he will gain weight. this happens to everyone taking creatine except for the very small % of "non-responders"

it is 100% safe with zero side effects for most. Some may experience slight upset stomach. Much of this can be solved by taking the creapure brand power to ensure its of a high purity and mixing in a warm drink to allow it to fully dissolve.


he does not need to do the loading phase. 5g daily is plenty


i didnt read the whole thread...im sure there will be people spouting off this or that....they are full of complete shite. I would be more than happy to direct you studies that show all the effects and any side effects if you would like.

honestly this should be on the H&F board though so we can have an intelligent discussion.