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Would you be willing to be absolutely terrible for 2-3 years to blow it all up and rebuild

Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:49 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
38097 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:49 am
I'm about at that point. But the only way out due to our salary cap situation is a total blow up and multi-year rebuild, which probably means a couple of 2-15, 3-14 type seasons.

Try to keep a couple of the younger defensive stars, but dump everyone else that has value. Take the cap hit. Be terrible. Build back the offense through the draft.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
15111 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:52 am to
We should have done this a few years ago.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
119757 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:52 am to
Its what needs to be done.

It will suck. we will bitch about it every sunday all offseason, we will bitch more the following year. Fans won't go to games.

But its what needs to be done.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
78943 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:53 am to
saints have put a band aid on a bullet hole and they are bleeding out. 3 years of rebuild time is nothing like spending decades in mediocrity. they have a choice.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 11:55 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59351 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:00 pm to
Willing or not that’s a very possible outcome in the near term only without being able to really rebuild
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
12097 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:04 pm to
If we have the right coaching staff in place sure, but with any of CSP's staff hanging around we are not going to build a successful team.

Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
9967 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:07 pm to
This shoujd have been done once Brees retired. Exactly why I said to do exactly what Tampa did. Sign a vet free agent for no more than 5 million a year until our cap situation was under control. Instead we dig ten feet deeper with Carr.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
119757 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:10 pm to
We should have torn it down to the studs, traded everyone we could, and dealt with the cap pain now.

Have DA be a tank commander for 3 years, rotate QBs you either draft or vets like Baker.

And then fire DA when you're ready to start to get back and go all in for a QB.

But Loomis wanted to tread water and keep his job for a few more years without a lot of work
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
12042 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

We should have done this a few years ago.


Correct.

Should have been done immediately after Brees retired or at the very least when Peyton left.

It has to happen sometime and with all the terrible contracts we have on the books it makes sense to do it now. The fans need some kind of hope and that hope is not going to come from the product on the field today.

This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 12:46 pm
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
15946 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:18 pm to
Yes. I'd rather suck and have a potential light at the end of the tunnel then be stuck in this terrible mediocre purgatory.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15124 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:23 pm to
Yes. It's easy to say because it's not my money but my opinion on moving guys like Kamara and Thomas (though not sure if MT has value) has even changed.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
9967 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

We should have torn it down to the studs, traded everyone we could, and dealt with the cap pain now.


We didn’t need to trade everyone. Just not sign big money free agents like Honey Badger, Maye, and Carr. The dead cap contracts would have came off the books within the next year or two.

Instead we pushed more into the future to sign these players. We could have just signed Bridgewater or Dalton and have the same record as we do now.

Next coach will have an old roster that is stuck with Carr and be cap strapped.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30671 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:45 pm to
Its a risk, but at this rate you're in pro sports no man land. No man land = Bad for fans, great for owners.

Good enough to make playoffs/wild card.
Bad enough to never win and lose out on elite prospects.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67709 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:56 pm to
I am not convinced the roster is the problem.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
3481 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:05 pm to
100% yes. I'd rather suck and draft high than go 8-9 or 9-8 every year with Derek Fricking Carr as my QB
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:08 pm to
I think from the posters here in the off season it was a majority wish. I believe it's a bigger majority now lol


Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
20551 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:08 pm to
Should of did this 2-3 years ago
Posted by tigerbait1.6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2013
3969 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:10 pm to
Willing? The saints are absolutely terrible lol
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
17636 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:13 pm to
Problem with this is because of how the contracts are set-up, you can't just start getting rid of players and you have to restructure a lot of the deals on the books to get under the cap over the next 2 years. You basically have to be willing to suck for ~3 years, then you can start the rebuilding process over the 2-3 years after that.

As fans, knowing the ultimate goal will be to bet back to being a legit team in ~5years, we would all go for it. However, the coaching staff & front office know they would not survive those 5 years so they will continue to make decisions that are in their best interests and figure out a way to sign the next big name next offseason.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
66134 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:16 pm to
Yes. Just as I have been for the last few years. Let’s get this party started.

Not sure it will ever happen with snake oil loomis continuing his grift of self preservation for the foreseeable future though.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 1:19 pm
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