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re: Body Cam shows Florida man killed by Deputy with one shot.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:31 am to Larry_Hotdogs
Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:31 am to Larry_Hotdogs
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Ok, so shooting him in the head was completely reasonable beyond the shadow of a doubt then?
If a guy raises a axe at me from 20 to 30 feet away and I think he may hurl it at me. I'd say it's pretty reasonable to shoot. Especially considering this is the second time that day responding to him threatening people.
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The Constitution “does not require police to gamble with their lives in the face of a serious threat of harm.” Elliott v. Leavitt, 99 F.3d 640, 641 (4th Cir. 1996).
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:31 am to Scrowe
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For some reason folks just can't understand this simple fact. Instead they want to root in like children bucking against their parents. How many videos of this nature are posted where cops shows up, the person is respectful and compliant from start to finish, and the person is then abused and/or killed?
Move to China. You'll fit in better there.
Anybody who claims "comply or die" can go to hell.
This post was edited on 12/12/22 at 7:33 am
Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:33 am to NATidefan
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If a guy raises a axe at me from 20 to 30 feet away and I think he may hurl it at me. I'd say it's pretty reasonable to shoot.
Yeah but you weren’t 20-30ft away at first. You got closer and pointed your gun at someone on their own property and killed them.
10 years ago you getting the death penalty.
And in Louisiana I would have every right to actually kill you for threatening me on my property.
This post was edited on 12/12/22 at 7:36 am
Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:35 am to NATidefan
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Well, using the boards as reference I'd say he's about 20-25 (30 max) feet away and raising a deadly weapon at the cop after telling the cop he wasn't going to put it down. Could the guy throw it? Say he charges... then when do you start shooting, wait til he gets 10 feet away? What if you miss or you dont drop him quickly and he keeps coming?
Hell yeah...shoot him before he even has a chance to do anything...or not do anything...either way, shoot first...do the paperwork later.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:40 am to dgnx6
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on their own property
Where did you see this was on his own property. He was walking around threatening people and cutting power to their houses.
Here is some more about this "innocent man cutting brush in his own property"
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According to Waters, Mahan had prior arrests, including possession of a firearm by a convicted felon, a drug arrest, a felony traffic arrest and a robbery arrest. Records show in 2013, Mahan was sentenced to three years in prison after he was convicted of being a felon in possession of a firearm. In 1998, Mahan was convicted on two counts of armed robbery and one count of attempted armed robbery.
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Court records also show that back in December 2021, an officer used a Taser on Mahan while trying to arrest him. The arrest came after a driver told police that Mahan tried to carjack him and verbally threatened to kill him at a Gate gas station on 103rd Street.
Yeah, I guess we shouldn't worry about this guy trying to hurt anyone at all.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:41 am to dgnx6
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And in Louisiana I would have every right to actually kill you for threatening me on my property.
not your property.
Due to a clerical error, you're years behind on property taxes and swat is now on the way.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:43 am to NATidefan
Was this his property or is the OP/Title misleading?
Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:45 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Was this his property or is the OP/Title misleading?
I haven't seen anything saying it was his property. But I did read he was walking around threatening people, cutting power to their houses, and vandalizing their property.
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During a news briefing, Chief T.K. Waters said police responded to Morse Avenue around 3:56 a.m. in response to a report of a mentally ill individual cutting power to houses, among other things.
Waters said officers arrived, they were unable to locate a suspect, and they left the scene.
Police say they received another call at 11:30 a.m. about the same man, who had reportedly returned and was continuing to vandalize houses in the area.
Doesn't sound like he's on his property to me. Pretty sure he's on the property of the person the cop asks "is that him?"
This post was edited on 12/12/22 at 7:55 am
Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:48 am to dat yat
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A man in his land should be respected, not shot for expecting to be left alone.
It looks like he’s on a playground. Is that really “his land”?
Doesn’t change the shooting was not justified though
This post was edited on 12/12/22 at 7:49 am
Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:55 am to NATidefan
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If a guy raises a axe at me from 20 to 30 feet away and I think he may hurl it at me. I'd say it's pretty reasonable to shoot.
Thanks for letting the world know you shouldn’t be a cop.
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The Constitution “does not require police to gamble with their lives in the face of a serious threat of harm.”
serious threat of harm
The guy standing straight up from
20-30’ away casually raising his hands and saying “listen, bro…” before being shot in the head is defined as a serious threat of harm?
Take a lap.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:58 am to GumboPot
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Put the ax down and the cop probably doesn't shoot.
Cop exacerbated the situation.
Dude was on his own property, doing his thing. frick that cop.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:59 am to HubbaBubba
Hell no. That's murder. But because no black victim, you’ll never hear about it. To certain people, crime doesn't exist if committed by certain people, non criminal activity is always criminal if committed by certain people, certain people are necessarily victims, and some people can never be victims.
This, based on Marxist deconstructionism. In the meantime, this baw just landed himself in jail for life, and that should matter to everyone who cares about jackboots.
This, based on Marxist deconstructionism. In the meantime, this baw just landed himself in jail for life, and that should matter to everyone who cares about jackboots.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:01 am to Larry_Hotdogs
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Thanks for letting the world know you shouldn’t be a cop.
There is no chance in hell I would be a cop this day an age with the way they are judged for decisions and people want to give more benefit of the doubt to criminals.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:03 am to NATidefan
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If a guy raises a axe at me from 20 to 30 feet away and I think he may hurl it at me. I'd say it's pretty reasonable to shoot.
You don't have the temperament to be a cop. You sound like the cop in the OP.
I'll just assume you wear three masks in the covid era too.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:07 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You don't have the temperament to be a cop. You sound like the cop in the OP.
I'll just assume you wear three masks in the covid era too
Yeah, well you think he was on his own property doing his own thing.
I guess walking around cutting power to people houses and threatening them is being on your own property doing your thing.
This post was edited on 12/12/22 at 8:09 am
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:08 am to HubbaBubba
"no"... famous last words
maybe not justified but i don't really care. just put the axe down. it's not like he was warding off something.
maybe not justified but i don't really care. just put the axe down. it's not like he was warding off something.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
I keep seeing in the title and repeated in the post that he was on his property. Yet nothing anywhere says this.
Another poster said he was not on his property and was cutting power to peoples home and making threats.
I am not a boot licker as some on here would say. But when told to drop the ax and you say no then raise it up what do you think is going to happen. What would be said if this guy being far enough away for the officer decided to run to one of the houses and commit murder. Now what would yall be saying. " He should have shot him"
Another poster said he was not on his property and was cutting power to peoples home and making threats.
I am not a boot licker as some on here would say. But when told to drop the ax and you say no then raise it up what do you think is going to happen. What would be said if this guy being far enough away for the officer decided to run to one of the houses and commit murder. Now what would yall be saying. " He should have shot him"
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:09 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Was this his property or is the OP/Title misleading?
This has a major nudge on how you feel about this video before you even watch it too. I think this thread would look a lot different if it said Florida man trespassing on someone's property with an axe.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:21 am to Ric Flair
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So you can shoot a mentally ill individual (their words, not mine). I wear headphones when doing Yardwork at times. It’s honestly scary, the fact that this will be deemed justified. A bullet in the head seems overboard.
I do to, but if I see a man pointing a gun at me, I am dropping my axe
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:38 am to Gulf Coast Tiger
He heard the command. Understood the command and can be heard saying "no"
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